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I know the HN crows idolizes people like pg and sama, but so many people appear to not even know who Ilya Sutskever is makes me think somehow this isn't "hacker" news anymore.

Obviously sama is a very productive individual, but I would think obviously a research lab would have to keep one of the princes of deep learning at all costs. Somewhat reminds me of when John Romero got ousted by John Carmack at id - if you are doing really hard technical things, technical people would hold more sway.

>>ziyao_+(OP)
The salesmen always take the credit. If you see someone getting all the credit... 9 times out of 10 they are the salesman not the engineer or brains that actually built the thing. Add to that the hero worship for celebrity in our current culture and there you go.

>>manyos+e
pg is a world class lisp hacker, no idea about sama though.

Respecting and admiring someone for their achievements is one thing but blindly following successful people sounds like the antithesis of what a "hacker" is.

>>ziyao_+r1
Seeing the outpouring from the OpenAI team makes me think there might be a real schism there - it’s a bit troubling to see, id software became less special after Romero left and either way for OpenAI it seems they would lose some remarkable people.