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1. hnthro+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:31:18
Maybe non-profits are just frontends of some three letter agencies :)
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2. __loam+N[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:35:12
>>hnthro+(OP)
Are we going to start speculating about insane conspiracy theories now?
replies(4): >>crop_r+d1 >>askono+m1 >>arthur+o1 >>zapata+j2
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3. crop_r+d1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:37:06
>>__loam+N
That doesn't seem insane to me in this case. OpenAI is easily the most important non profit for any Government in the whole world.
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4. askono+m1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:37:37
>>__loam+N
Knowing what some of those three letter agencies have gotten caught doing, I'm not so sure this particular one would be so insane.
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5. arthur+o1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:37:40
>>__loam+N
yes. this is a very strange event and given the relationship to what we may call "cutting edge applied DL" technology, right after DevDay, with two key players dropping out. GDB leaving is pretty wild, IMO. indicates something maybe on the engineering level wasn't above board. Anyways, we shall see. I think some conspiratorial thinking is fine, especially if its backed up with some evidence. This comment isn't, but the fact remains this is pretty weird and people should let their minds wander and connect dots that maybe they half-remember. IMO
6. during+p1[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:37:47
>>hnthro+(OP)
You think too highly of the government
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7. __loam+V1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:40:54
>>crop_r+d1
They don't need you to be their pr department. Their products are based on research done at Google and Meta, they're not the only ones working on this and they're also one of the smaller players in the space.
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8. hnthro+72[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:41:40
>>during+p1
What if government is also some frontend?

Man I'm drunk in conspiracy theories tonight. Between a huge lay off and the Open AI fiasco please allow me indulge myself...

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9. zapata+j2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:42:26
>>__loam+N
CIA has been destabilizing and puppeteering governments around the world. Why are you so steadfastly assured that they wouldn't meddle in the US?

Not saying there is proof, but we just found out Ukraine blew up the Russian pipeline so it seems weird to just squash debate at the 'that's too crazy to ever happen'. Way crazier things have happened/are constantly happening.

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10. crop_r+Y2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:46:23
>>__loam+V1
I never made any of the points you are contesting and my point still stands. And they are not a smaller player in this space, they are the most well known player.
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11. krapp+y4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:54:14
>>crop_r+d1
Governments will have their own black-budget private LLM networks, they don't need OpenAI. The NSA probably has a whole cluster of them in its data center in Utah, trained on every public and private communication they've slurped up over the years, likely a generation or two ahead of what's available to the public.
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12. timeon+Y5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 01:02:54
>>zapata+j2
Is the thing with the pipeline actually confirmed?

Anyway if I was in business of destabilizing governments around the world I would not bother dealing with board meetings. But maybe that's just me.

13. aaomid+Ba[view] [source] 2023-11-18 01:29:19
>>hnthro+(OP)
More like four letter agencies. AKA the stock tickers of large companies.
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14. chairh+dl[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 02:45:52
>>krapp+y4
This is immensely dumb. What secret cabal of researchers would they be hiring that would be capable of being ahead of Deepmind/OpenAI? Where exactly would they find these people? Shadow MIT? CalTech2?
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15. krapp+9m[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 02:53:17
>>chairh+dl
Military and intelligence technology is almost always ahead of the private sector. Governments have practically infinite money and resources to throw at the problem, including for recruiting and industrial espionage.
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16. chairh+Tn[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 03:05:55
>>krapp+9m
The only people who think this are people who have never been associated with a top research org. You NEVER hear about anyone, let alone the top people, going to work for government. They all get scooped up with big tech salaries or stay in academia.

The military would need to be literally breeding geniuses and cultivating a secret scientific ecosystem to be ahead on AI right now.

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17. SAI_Pe+6D[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 04:56:03
>>hnthro+72
The Government is a front for the Illuminati.

The Illuminati are a front for the Jews™ (not to be confused with Jewish people).

The Jews™ are a front for the Catholic Church.

The Catholic church is a front for the Lizard People.

The Lizard People are a front for the Government.

Nobody is in control. The conspiracy is circular. There is no conspiracy. Everything in this post is false. Only an idiot cannot place his absolute certainty in paradoxes.

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18. satvik+2V[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 07:32:17
>>chairh+dl
I can tell you right now that the government agencies are ahead of for-profit ones. Whether you choose to believe it is up to you.
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19. krapp+PY1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 15:32:13
>>chairh+Tn
The military does have a secret scientific ecosystem. Where do you think all of its advanced classified technology and cryptography comes from, the Hammacher Schlemmer catalog?
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