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1. hacker+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-17 22:26:44
Eric Schmidt calling Sam a hero also makes me think it isn't a personal scandal.
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2. next_x+24[view] [source] 2023-11-17 22:43:26
>>hacker+(OP)
This doesn’t make sense to me. It assumes Schmidt has inside info on why Altman was fired.
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3. carlos+N6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-17 22:55:48
>>next_x+24
Of course he has. Why would he risk political capital by defending sama publicly if he didn’t know for sure he wouldn’t get burned by defending him?
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4. hacker+j7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-17 22:58:35
>>next_x+24
If he didn't know he wouldn't say anything. Why risk saying something when there's a very high chance that it's something like sexual misconduct or fraud.
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5. london+6e[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-17 23:32:37
>>next_x+24
Schmidt knows nearly everyone. He will know the details.
6. outsid+Te[view] [source] 2023-11-17 23:36:09
>>hacker+(OP)
Not sure Eric Schmidt is exactly a great judge of character. If anything that is an anti-signal
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7. JohnFe+bi[view] [source] 2023-11-17 23:52:18
>>hacker+(OP)
I'm pretty confident it's not a personal scandal (or if it is, it's one that is truly monumental and that there hasn't even been a rumor of).

If it was a personal scandal, the messaging around his dismissal would have been very, very different. The messaging they gave makes it clear that whatever dirty deed he did, he did it to OpenAI itself.

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8. tiahur+Yk[view] [source] 2023-11-18 00:07:11
>>hacker+(OP)
Everybody's a comedian on Friday.
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9. achron+Wl[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:11:28
>>outsid+Te
In the world that both Messrs. Schmidt and Altman operate in, liability is a vastly stronger incentive than character.
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10. lenerd+qt[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:44:17
>>achron+Wl
Isn’t Schmidt the guy who’s dating a CEO of a company he made an investment in?

That _should_, in a system of corporate governance that isn’t an absolute joke, expose him to significant liability.

Or am I thinking of another NorCal cretin that will never suffer a real consequence as long as he lives?

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11. vkou+cu[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 00:48:36
>>carlos+N6
Maybe because it's not risking very much political capital. If he's wrong, and shuts up (rather than doubling down on it), nobody will remember what he said in two weeks.

Hell, some prominent tech people are often loudly wrong, and loudly double down on their wrong-ness, and still end up losing very little of their political capital in the long run.

Or maybe he's right. We don't know, we're all just reading tea leaves.

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12. nostra+AH[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 02:06:04
>>JohnFe+bi
Or to the public on behalf of OpenAI.
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13. SamAlt+Z91[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 05:42:21
>>JohnFe+bi
There were rumours apparently, but they were suppressed intentionally and very effectively it appears.
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14. foobie+pe1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 06:17:37
>>outsid+Te
Yeah, Schmidt is whatever is on the opposite end of the spectrum from "mature" and "ethical."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidjeans/2023/10/23/eric-schm...

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15. JohnFe+ma2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 14:02:22
>>SamAlt+Z91
What I was meaning to say in my comment was that the rumors and accusations relating to his sister, even if entirely true, are not monumental enough of a personal scandal to explain how the board behaved while firing him.

They'd probably still fire him, but would have done so in a very different way.

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