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1. fsflov+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-11-16 17:53:08
What about Matrix?
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2. rodlet+dw1[view] [source] 2023-11-17 02:47:57
>>fsflov+(OP)
I've tried a few times. It always felt... clunky?

I tried Element. UI felt slow, I was unable to find notifications in scrollback. Clicking the notification button would take me to random messages.

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3. fsflov+R52[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-17 08:35:38
>>rodlet+dw1
There are very many clients lighter than Element.
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4. rodlet+Xj2[view] [source] 2023-11-17 10:53:09
>>fsflov+(OP)
I remembered another issue with Matrix.

Signal and XMPP (via Quickly) have a simple phone number based signup workflow that my family have grown used to.

My family are not happy on having to remember/use passwords/keys. That's a shame, but is ultimately a constraint I have to deal with when persuading them to install/use an IM app.

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5. rodlet+0l2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-17 11:03:12
>>fsflov+R52
I just checked https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/

I'll try FluffyChat, thanks!

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6. rodlet+8n2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-17 11:25:17
>>rodlet+Xj2
Replying to myself... looks like some Matrix homeservers support OpenID-style login. That's probably fine for family.
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7. rodlet+nZ5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-11-18 05:55:17
>>rodlet+0l2
I tried it. It looks nice, but audio/video calls didn't work at all between two FluffyChat clients.
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