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>Someone skilled produces low volumes of medium-to-high effort work

So based on the table they are skilled, right? Are you suggesting that they are a savant in disguise and that they can produce high volumes of high effort work if they weren't "lazy"?

if the work is considered medium-to-high effort by the organization, your opinion on if it's avoiding "boring" work (which can still be low or high effort) is irrelevant.

>If someone is "undisciplined," more often they are just lazy and are engaging in avoidance behaviors.

IME it's because the employers don't trust nor want them to work on the high effort work. So either the business's most profitable software is the most boring, or the candidate is too junior (alternatively, the position and responsibility is simply filled or not valued)

>Humans with serious executive function issues are a tiny (super tiny) minority of the workforce.

Likewise, humans who can do "productive" creative work for 80 hours a week consistently, for years, is also a super tiny minority.

At the end of the day, "lazy" is relative and we haven't even established a baseline for what is/isn't lazy. So this conversation won't go anywhere. All we established in your lens is that taking breaks or doing non-technical work (meetings, even gossip depending on the line of work) is not productive in your eyes.

>>johnny+(OP)
I've worked with quite a few people who absolutely can do quality work but who will intentionally avoid actually doing it. People who browse social media most of the day, get lost in their phone frequently, would rather wait 2 weeks to have a meeting to get unblocked when it could be resolved in a short email, etc.

I have literally had (TWO SEPARATE!) people tell me, thinking it was perfectly acceptable, that they often put extra lines in their code so they can go back and clean it up instantly with auto-format while pretending they did real work.

What would you call someone who defaults to this type of behavior if not lazy? Work shy?