Me too, but I am arguing the degree of it here, and that nuance is sadly lost on many. They always jump on "go live in the woods then" which obviously is not what the argument is about.
If the costs of living drop a little and if housing becomes actually affordable then I'll very likely never open my mouth criticizing civilization again.
And I will not agree that the current world economical situation is inevitable. I think many of us are quite aware that the world elite is playing dangerous games at the expense of everyone else but themselves.
It does not have to be this way. It can be better. But that's a huge -- and different -- topic.
> But nobody's forcing us.
Hard disagree and I'll leave it at that, you are chasing a dictionary definition here much like my previous parent poster did, and that's not moving any discussion forward.
> I don't think you want what you think you want.
Disrespect will get you nowhere in any discussion.
> You like modern society, certainly beats fighting mountain lions for days-old dead deer and dying of a treatable infection. If you want the benefits of society you have to contribute.
Sure, and again -- degrees. It's not an all or nothing and it's very puzzling why you and many others are framing it that way.