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Snoozer like the iPhone 15 release. No real innovation, just a new chip, improved cameras, and a bunch of waxing and waning about premium materials that I will never see again after I slap a case on it.

>>daft_p+(OP)
Why do people expect to be blown away every year? Most people upgrade their phone every 2-3 years. This isn't the early smartphone days where there was tons of room for improvement. Moore's law has gotten increasingly closer to ending, screens are as pixel dense as necessary, and people generally are satisfied with the capabilities of their phone. Starting around 2017 smartphones as we know them peaked and so they just shove bigger/better/more cameras into them for the most part.

>>hbn+lI
There is tons of room for innovation in phones, but most companies don't want to risk deviating from what consumers think they want (just like Hollywood movies).

I'm sure the HN crowd could come together and form a list of 100 ideas that are truly innovative in the phone space. However, these ideas are quite risky to bring to market.

Some ideas:

1. Super Amazing Sound playback (next level) 2. Rollable display 3. More I/O (for 3rd party ecosystems)

>>proee+5U
How much of that can be delivered at a price point that is acceptable to consumers?

>>daft_p+(OP)
If you want something innovative there's always the foldables, one of which is Google's. I'm not sure what other form factor you're looking for in a phone, turns out that "glass slab that's nearly 100% screen" is a pretty decent design choice.

>>proee+5U
Yeah but those are all worthless for selling a phone.

>>proee+5U
> Super Amazing Sound playback (next level)

What does this even mean?

>>proee+5U
4. Gas and other ambient sensors

5. Rear display, maybe eink

6. 3d lenticular display

7. Infrared camera

8. Mesh network for sms-like relay without service