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1. matthe+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-10-04 15:53:12
Pixel 3 no longer receiving updates.
replies(1): >>barbaz+23
2. barbaz+23[view] [source] 2023-10-04 16:04:36
>>matthe+(OP)
https://lineageos.org/

> monthly security updates to every supported device

replies(1): >>joemaz+Wa
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3. joemaz+Wa[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-04 16:34:51
>>barbaz+23
Only partial and generally non-critical updates. Upgrade your phone
replies(1): >>barbaz+Tc
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4. barbaz+Tc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-04 16:40:27
>>joemaz+Wa
My understanding might be limited but I don't see this being a big enough risk to warrant spending couple hundred dollars every few years for a new phone when the old one still works.
replies(1): >>chimer+sp
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5. chimer+sp[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-04 17:25:51
>>barbaz+Tc
> My understanding might be limited but I don't see this being a big enough risk to warrant spending couple hundred dollars every few years for a new phone when the old one still works.

There are enough zero-day RCE exploits on both Android and iOS devices at this point that, if you're running phones that are that far out of date from security updates, you should basically just assume your device is fully compromised.

As stated above, many of the RCE exploits don't even involve any user interaction, so it's not like you can argue "well, I don't visit sketchy websites so I'm fine".

replies(2): >>onli+iu >>toaste+VF
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6. onli+iu[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-04 17:43:30
>>chimer+sp
Could you link one at-the-time zero-day RCE that is really without user interaction and will hit any user with an old phone regardless of the user applications (like the browser) used?
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7. toaste+VF[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-04 18:34:09
>>chimer+sp
So basically, stop using smartphones, because it's fucking ridiculous to drop hundreds of dollars every 4 years on a device that is virtually the same thing as your old one. This is a huge joke, and Google and Apple need to do better or stop milking us. I was safer using a Nokia 3310 in 2007.
replies(1): >>chimer+UG
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8. chimer+UG[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-04 18:38:19
>>toaste+VF
> So basically, stop using smartphones, because it's fucking ridiculous to drop hundreds of dollars every 4 years on a device that is virtually the same thing as your old one. This is a huge joke, and Google and Apple need to do better or stop milking us.

I mean, you're literally posting this complaint on a thread about a phone that is now legally bound to receive seven years of updates.

replies(1): >>toaste+8I
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9. toaste+8I[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-04 18:43:57
>>chimer+UG
OK replace 4 with 7 in my above comment. My mistake.
replies(1): >>chimer+8K
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10. chimer+8K[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-04 18:51:46
>>toaste+8I
While there have been flagship phones that have received support for seven years, no other phone has been released with a legally binding up-front commitment to provide support for seven years.

It feels very misplaced to complain about obsolescence on a thread in that context.

replies(2): >>toaste+tL >>jowea+fC1
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11. toaste+tL[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-04 18:58:12
>>chimer+8K
I think my comment is not very misplaced given the original comment above in this comment chain.
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12. jowea+fC1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-10-04 23:44:27
>>chimer+8K
As someone in a similar situation to other poster, I'm still annoyed at the choice between buying a new phone (with the financial and environmental consequences) or having to deal with the maybe I'm invisibly hacked maybe I'm not when all I want is security updates and/or a software that is built with enough safety to avoid zero-click exploits.

But yeah, this is a good news thread, thank you Google.

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