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1. asmor+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-09-30 16:19:42
First of all, these are not the same thing. Manipulating people and being manipulated aren't mutually exclusive.

Second, these people spend their entire life mastering the art of manipulating large populations into consumerism and induced demand. Humans have limited bandwidth, and it wouldn't be most people's specific domain knowledge to spot the mechanisms and the resist them.

And, calling back to point one, even if you know the mechanisms of propaganda, you are not immune to propaganda.

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2. abadpo+A4[view] [source] 2023-09-30 16:45:55
>>asmor+(OP)
None of that answered the question though. Why are companies, which are made up of groups of people, expected to somehow have foreknowledge of the consequences of these chemicals, while other groups of people are not?

It has nothing to do with “propaganda”. Are people just supposed to magically know the long term effects of every chemical they ingest? And if not, why are companies supposed to magically know it? Do companies have a crystal ball that normal people don’t have?

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3. lm2846+a5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-30 16:49:48
>>abadpo+A4
> expected to somehow have foreknowledge of the consequences of these chemicals

Try arguing in good faith for a bit it really isn't that hard. I'm not asking them to see the future, I'm asking them to study their products so we don't discover decades later that "oh snap lead in gas was bad!?", "Oh what, breathing asbestos isn't so good in the end?!"

They have unlimited money when it comes to finding new ways to make more profit but as soon as we talk risk assessment and management the money printing press runs dry, how convenient

Do you think the top behavioural scientists at facebook working on how to make you more engaged don't know what they're doing ? If so why are all people in the loop not giving phones to their kids, not allowing them to access social medias, &c. ?

https://www.independent.ie/life/family/parenting/the-tech-mo...

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