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1. nerdjo+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-09-27 00:10:47
This is quickly becoming a problem with a lot of Home Automation.

Too many companies are finally realizing that thanks to matter their products are basically going to become commodities. No longer is there an advantage to sticking within a single platform to avoid hubs (ok so maybe "no longer" is jumping forward a few years but still, the steps are happening now).

The part that really frustrates me, my Hue devices are the most reliable devices in my home automation behind my HomePods. On a fairly regular basis my other home automation devices will just randomly not work, loose connection, or just generally have issues. I am not exactly itching move away from that reliability and I feel like Phillips Hue likely knows this.

This includes Ikea when I tried their smart tech just a couple years ago. It was incredibly unreliable and I do question actually recommending it (that being said, maybe they have gotten better and I would love for someone here to tell me has... it seems kind against Ikea for them to go down a locking down approach?)

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2. bombca+93[view] [source] 2023-09-27 00:29:18
>>nerdjo+(OP)
The main thing for reliability for me is ... is there wired ethernet to the device or hub, and NOT wifi or bluetooth to the final switch/bulb.

"real" protocols like Zigbee and friends seem to work well.

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3. nerdjo+26[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-27 00:47:27
>>bombca+93
Hmm, I hadn't thought about it before but I do wonder if that is part why it is as reliable as it is. I believe the Hue hub is ethernet only while my other hubs are all wifi.

However I think the Ikea hub I had was ethernet only so not sure if that's the entire answer.

4. kristo+aj[view] [source] 2023-09-27 02:12:43
>>nerdjo+(OP)
Ikea has gotten quite a bit better. Most of their devices are Zigbee 3.0 now, and work fine.
5. LeafIt+Sj[view] [source] 2023-09-27 02:18:29
>>nerdjo+(OP)
> This includes Ikea when I tried their smart tech just a couple years ago. It was incredibly unreliable and I do question actually recommending it (that being said, maybe they have gotten better and I would love for someone here to tell me has...

I have had IKEA bulbs and outlets for over two years (adding to it over that time) and have great experiences and high reliability.

6. banana+x11[view] [source] 2023-09-27 08:24:33
>>nerdjo+(OP)
Hue is already not a commodity, since they make the by far nicest and most reliable lights. Making their product shittier isn't making it more competitive.
7. chipsa+L02[view] [source] 2023-09-27 14:54:16
>>nerdjo+(OP)
My most reliable home automation devices are the Lutron Caseta. I've never had any problems, aside from changing the batteries on the shades. The Ikea stuff is decent now but wasn't so great 6 years ago. I still have the original tradfri hub. An annoyance with them is that because you want to be able to control them with a physical switch, a power-outage will result in them coming back on when the power returns, instead of remembering their last power setting. They may have fixed this since last I looked. I'm just using the hub for the smart blinds at the moment.
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