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1. ramida+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-09-25 17:37:40
I switched to the secure knot after finding this site a few years ago https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

It's really excellent, my shoes never come untied and I don't have to double-knot

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2. felixr+u1[view] [source] 2023-09-25 17:43:41
>>ramida+(OP)
Same here. I always had problems with laces getting undone. Not with this knot.
3. jccalh+X1[view] [source] 2023-09-25 17:46:14
>>ramida+(OP)
Me too. It is easy to tie and untie but never comes undone.
4. philam+o8[view] [source] 2023-09-25 18:13:36
>>ramida+(OP)
Holy shit. This is what I have been looking for. Have some MTB high-top shoes that have impossible-to-remain-tied laces. This is perfect, thank you.
5. mikest+gd[view] [source] 2023-09-25 18:32:48
>>ramida+(OP)
I'm more of a Surgeon's Knot[0] guy, myself. Just like a "regular" shoelace knot, with one easy-to-remember twist. I don't recall that knot having ever come loose without my intentional untying. Great for ultramarathons when the last thing I want to do after 40 miles is bend over to tie a shoelace. (Especially if I'm wearing Altra shoes, whose laces I'd swear are coated in Teflon and come undone if I look at them too hard.)

[0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/surgeonknot.htm

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6. dylan6+qd[view] [source] 2023-09-25 18:33:42
>>ramida+(OP)
i find it funny that as a kid, velcro laces are used, and then as senior, they come back. but in that time in between, "adults" are wasting their time fiddling with laces. it's one of the most useless things when other solutions are available.
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7. bcjord+Tg[view] [source] 2023-09-25 18:49:48
>>ramida+(OP)
Been on the secure knot for nearly two decades. Looks great, perfect amount of grip (never unties) and easy pull to open.

Make sure you tie it balanced!

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8. nicwol+wn[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-25 19:18:37
>>mikest+gd
I tie it that way too, but as that page points out, it's the same knot:

> The whole twisted mess of the previous drawing will rearrange itself into exactly the same finished knot as my Ian's Secure Shoelace Knot.

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9. mikest+vp[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-25 19:26:18
>>nicwol+wn
Damn, caught red-handed not reading TFA that I posted!

I did glance at the Ian's version for sanity, but somehow missed that part in the link I posted; thanks.

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10. hotnfr+YM[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-25 21:11:07
>>dylan6+qd
Loafers. Loafers are amazing.

US adults (and, to a lesser extent, those in Europe—I gather the loafer caps out a bit lower there as far as how “high up” you can dress it) can get away with wearing slip-on shoes a whole lot of the time, while also looking smarter-dressed than sneakers or what have you.

Doesn’t get you away from laces entirely, but can seriously cut down on how often you have to fiddle with them.

(Or you can come at it the other way and become a Crocs Guy, of course)

11. zarzav+pt2[view] [source] 2023-09-26 10:25:46
>>ramida+(OP)
I have been using this knot for years. As you say, it never comes undone. Not a single time in 6 years or so.
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