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1. lozeng+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-09-24 15:10:18
It's called "just"ice, not "systemish". Getting the right outcome is meant to be a core goal of the system. Besides, there are many legal reasonings that would allow the process to give the right answer - that innocent people should not be killed. Thomas chose to find a different reasoning instead.
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2. jfenge+U5[view] [source] 2023-09-24 15:54:33
>>lozeng+(OP)
All nine of them, and practically every lawyer of all persuasions, will tell you that the only justice is the equal application of the written law. And sense of "justice" to mean "fairness" is a job for the legislature.

The fact that legislation is always vague and they can interpret it to mean whatever their ideology wants it to mean is just waiting for more legislation to fix it. If there is an obvious miscarriage of justice, all you need to do is get a majority of the House, 60% of the Senate, and the President to all agree within a two year window. There, justice done.

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3. LargeT+sc[view] [source] 2023-09-24 16:35:30
>>lozeng+(OP)
No. Human legal systems will never be truly just. They are a reflection of ourselves and we are imperfect. We can only do our best.

In this case the guy got to go all the way to the top court. That's great. That sounds like a good system so far. So at very least it's not rotten to the core. Thomas is unfit and disappointingly partisan, but this appointment came from the executive branch, not the justice system itself. The justice system was set up so the executive branch can check the judiciary. In this case the executive Branch's actions really messed up, but I don't think it's fair to criticize the justice system.

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4. BeFlat+Fp[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-24 17:50:32
>>jfenge+U5
…and you'd only need a simple majority in the Senate if not for silly procedural rules.
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5. UncleM+Py[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-24 18:47:45
>>jfenge+U5
And yet, conservatives will happily just make up rules that aren't found anywhere in the written law to allow them to crush people under the justice system. Younger Abstention is an especially egregious example.
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