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1. confou+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-09-08 14:49:12
You’ve offered no specific or practical alternatives, just idealistic babble, and are yet calling for the scaling back of direct and actionable enforcement.

People like you, the political climate you create, and the policies you vote for, are largely why our cities are devolving.

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2. trinsi+G8[view] [source] 2023-09-08 15:22:14
>>confou+(OP)
Agreed. There are legitimate reasons to have enforcement. The problem is the peace officer part has been divorced from the role. Getting rid of the role of a peace officer is not a good idea.
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3. coucha+ef[view] [source] 2023-09-08 15:46:04
>>confou+(OP)
It's troubling that you seem to expect a succint answer to a huge and complex problem, and you immediately write off any ideas that ask you to think first.

> our cities are devolving.

Turn off fox news and visit any of them and you'll see that American cities today are experiencing a rennaissance.

4. nkjnlk+wF[view] [source] 2023-09-08 17:38:49
>>confou+(OP)
https://www.amazon.com/No-More-Police-Case-Abolition/dp/1620...

If you're actually interested and not just asking someone to elaborate on a complex problem over a HackerNews comment. An equally uncharitable opponent could ask you to prove that heavy policing (or at least the NYPD) has played a significant role in reducing crime.

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5. nkjnlk+gG[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-08 17:42:16
>>trinsi+G8
Enforcing peace (where peace is not defined solely by white landowners) has _never_ been the role of the police officer in America.
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