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So you're upset because cops are being "dicks" while investigating crimes?

Having public conversations and having cops insert themselves is.. actually really well established case law. Yes the cops can listen in when you have no expectation of privacy.

We don't want cops having and abusing backdoors but "playing the game" is perfectly legit. The cops do not owe you some sense of playing gently.

>>vorpal+(OP)
>Yes the cops can listen in when you have no expectation of privacy.

I'm not sure this is the sentence you meant. Of course anybody can listen in when you have no expectation of privacy. Without a court ordered search warrant, they can't listen in when you do have expectation of privacy.

>>vorpal+(OP)
Exactly. The offline analogy is in the old mafia busting days. Let's say there was a bar with dozens or 100s of people regularly in it, and it was well known that mafia and mafia associates frequented it to discuss mafia activity.

If a cop were to gain entry, or have a paid informant gain entry, whether by paying a cover, or bluffing association with a regular, that seems well within the law.

This is not someones house, or your bedroom, or the cops picking a lock & busting down a door. Social media is just an online "third place". It is not work, it is not your home, it is not private.. it is public square, even if you mark yourself "private" and only accept 200 followers instead of 300.

>>dylan6+w
None of that is wrong but as I understand, it’s established precedent that a “public square” setting does not provide a legitimate expectation of privacy.

>>dylan6+w
Me being deluded into having a sense of privacy over Facebook doesn't magically create the need for a warrant.

Facebook is not private, neither is Twitter, especially not the profiles on Facebook.

>>vorpal+n2
Yes, I'm deluded for expecting people to have common decency and respect people's wishes. It also makes you a dick for not being willing to respect someone's wishes. You feel that all of the data that someone posts automatically means you should be able to consume it even though you specifically were not included just sounds like you have issues of being left out. Whatever the issue, just don't be a dick and know when you're not wanted to be a part of something and just accept it.

>>dylan6+Af
Cops aren't there to respect your wishes. Full stop.

You can have whatever wishes you want, but if you are behaving inconsistently with the truth, you're going to spend a lot of time being wrong and having your wishes disobeyed.