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1. crmd+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-09-07 15:48:50
In the old days I trusted Siskel and Ebert for movie reviews the way I now trust guys like Project Farm and Jeff Geerling for product reviews.

We are born with pretty good 1:1 bullshit detectors, and exceptionally credible people easily earn my trust. Aggregated review platforms like rotten tomatoes and Amazon are just garbage.

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2. hoppyh+T3[view] [source] 2023-09-07 16:02:49
>>crmd+(OP)
https://rogerebert.com is still up and running and their staff is still writing reviews for new films. It's one of my go-to sources for film reviews.
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3. mitchd+pq[view] [source] 2023-09-07 17:24:39
>>crmd+(OP)
I tend to view the opposite. An individual is way easier to manipulate than an entire platform. Anybody who gets free products is immediately tainted. Project Farm says he pays for everything but all we have to trust that is his word. If you trust him, why don't you trust RT when they ban the company that paid for the reviews and say, "we take the integrity of our platform seriously"?

The more reviews that go into a rating, the more effort has to be made by bad actors to influence the score. And the higher the possibility that someone with integrity will reveal the scheme.

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4. nebula+ES[view] [source] 2023-09-07 19:16:03
>>crmd+(OP)
Even Project Farm is not perfect. His review for water pitchers is accurate but not giving the complete picture because he is measuring only one dimension of what makes a good water filtrations system but the video is acting like it alone determines how good the product is.

He measures TDS which I admit is one way to judge a water filter but people may have other considerations they have to consider such as are they looking to filter fluoride, bacteria, etc? Some of the poorly performing filters that fared badly in TDS filtering filter these other items much better/or handle the material better(not filtering fluoride).

Also small nitpick, he used one of the manufacturer's free provided TDS meters instead of buying a independent meter(the TDS meter was provided by the winning product). I know because I got the same meter provided free with my Zerowater meter. It seems accurate when I compare it to an independent meter but if you know that it was provided by the manufacturer it is not a good look.

Now this is the only video I have a gripe with because I have done a lot of independent research on water filters before seeing this video so these things popped out to me...but what about his other videos? I am not and cannot be an expert on all the different items he reviews so what else is he not testing properly or leaving out?

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5. bambax+tY[view] [source] 2023-09-07 19:40:59
>>crmd+(OP)
Imdb is still pretty reliable in my experience.
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6. paul_f+rZ[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-07 19:45:06
>>mitchd+pq
An aggregate of critics who may have different tastes or priorities than you is less useful for the reader than an individual person you're in tune with.
7. namdna+n01[view] [source] 2023-09-07 19:49:04
>>crmd+(OP)
I strongly recommend Mark Kermode
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8. bityar+H21[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-07 20:00:20
>>nebula+ES
So I watch every PF video, and I have to defend him a little bit. Todd's videos are orders of _magnitude_ better than the garbage that Consumer Reports, Wirecutter, and other so-call "professional" review outfits provide. Not just in quality, but quantity even.

The first thing I will say is that water filters are not Todd's core competency. He usually tests motor oils and tools, so water filters are certainly out in left field for him.

He can't test every dimension of a product, partly due to lack of time and partly because he can't cheaply/easily test every scenario. TDS is mainly what people buy water filters for. Yes, SOME people want to filter flouride and bacteria but these are uncommon. (Flouride because it's generally safe to drink in municipal tap water, and bacteria because most water has flouride or comes from a sterile well.)

Even I would like to see him do more in-depth testing of some tools, but he does a good job overall of testing whether most products stand up to the maker's claims and whether they survive typical use. (It's surprising how many do not.) I'd personally like to see teardowns and subjective assessments of build quality along with more punishing longevity tests but I know that is asking quite a lot on top of what he already does.

Plus, the YouTube Recommendation AI demands weekly uploads and a constant stream of engagement from your viewers, or else your channel gets sent straight to the dark, sweaty backlot of obscurity and your funding along with it.

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9. darkly+w31[view] [source] 2023-09-07 20:03:16
>>crmd+(OP)
Most of these guys gave back in the day the new star wars movies good reviews, I don't trust them, I don't trust anyone who I go and see a movie and see it is complete and absolute garbanzo and yet this "acclaimed critic" is completely ignoring all its flaws, especially if said movie comes from a property related to Disney.
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10. Bud+741[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-07 20:06:04
>>bityar+H21
Orders of magnitude, plural? So you're saying that Todd is inevitably at least 100x better than Wirecutter?

No, he's not. Wirecutter is in fact extremely useful and reliable, in my experience. This one dude is not 100x better than that. Perhaps in some cases he's slightly better, sure. He is obviously not "orders of magnitude" better.

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11. DHPers+Qf1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-07 21:05:06
>>hoppyh+T3
Once Ebert died I largely stopped visiting that site. Do you feel that they still hold opinions largely similar to what Ebert would have if he was still alive?
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12. abruzz+wh1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-07 21:14:19
>>hoppyh+T3
to me the trick is finding one or two reviewers that you understand (not necessarily agree with.) Then if the person says they dislike something and why, you can compare their history with your history of agreeing or disagreeing with them. When Ebert was alive, I had read (and saw) enough of his reviews to have that kind of reaction. For example, I knew Ebert hated David Lynch, and I understood (to an extent) why and I knew that I disagreed on the reasons, so I could filter his reviews. Other people writing on Eberts site don't give me that.

That's something you don't get with aggregators.

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13. dylan6+kk1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-07 21:27:59
>>bambax+tY
You mean the site that sprinkles information about a title in between Amazon self promotion?
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14. user39+Ov1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-07 22:36:08
>>Bud+741
Orders of magnitude is used as an expression, no need to “hackthually” someone about it.
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15. jinush+dy1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-07 22:49:51
>>bityar+H21
My confidence in Project Farm was shook when he reviewed garden hoses. One of the hoses he reviewed never kinked, but I have the same hose and it kinks everyday multiples times in one session.
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16. evujum+Vy1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-07 22:53:15
>>Bud+741
I am always fascinated by people insisting on base 10 orders of magnitude, which introduces an anthropocentric component to many quantifications where it arguably doesn't make a lot of sense.

If you take the natural choice of base, e, then "orders of magnitude" would only imply Todd to be 7.39 times better, which he is in many cases — for example, by measuring the self-information of reviews — and he may even cross that threshold in the aggregate.

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17. hoppyh+P14[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-08 17:01:34
>>DHPers+Qf1
I don't know; I discovered it after he died and have been using it mainly for post-Ebert reviews. I'm actually not super familiar with his taste in films.
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18. darker+ks4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-08 19:00:28
>>DHPers+Qf1
It's never been the same for me. I didn't always agree with his opinion, but he always articulated it beautifully, and I could respect it. Critics these days seem like they're just churning out more content.
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