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1. ks2048+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-09-06 17:13:08
I wonder if CYC would have had more success if it was open and collaborative. WikiData seems like a successful cousin. I know the goals are a quite different - wikidata doesn't really store "common sense" knowledge, but it seems any rule-based AI system would probably want to use wikidata as a database of facts.
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2. zozbot+C4[view] [source] 2023-09-06 17:33:45
>>ks2048+(OP)
> wikidata doesn't really store "common sense" knowledge

They're actively working on this, with the goal of ultimately building a language-independent representation[0] of ordinary encyclopedic text. Much like a machine translation interlanguage, but something that would be mostly authored by humans, not auto-generated from existing natural-language text. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia for more information.

[0] Of course, there are some very well-known pitfalls to this general idea: what's the true, canonical language-independent representation of nimium saepe valedīxit? So this should probably be understood as mostly language-independent, enough to be practically useful.

3. creer+47[view] [source] 2023-09-06 17:44:16
>>ks2048+(OP)
I looked into it years ago and adding to, say, opencyc, really did not seem simple. There was a lot of detail in the entity descriptions. Even reading them seemed to required an awful lot of background knowledge of the system.

It may have been possible to at least add lots of parallel items / instances. For example more authors and books and music works and performers, etc. Anyone here built a system around opencyc? Or cyc?

4. brundo+3e[view] [source] 2023-09-06 18:12:57
>>ks2048+(OP)
If I recall, Cyc did exactly that (imported data from WikiData)

Unfortunately there was much more to it than ingesting large volumes of structured entities

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