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"People aren't going to "degrow" by themselves" is an immediate flaw, because, well, mere ideas were enough to convince me to change some of the ways I act. You're thinking about all this from policy at the global or national scale, but these ideas are closer to the local and organic level

It's actually a little concerning how your line of reasoning seems to follow the most dystopian path, can't you see any other way of it happening?

>>pictur+(OP)
Low emission zones already exist and have existed for years.

"Airplane tickets are too cheap" is a talking point of French politicians recently. It's likely they will do something about it.

The EU already has a law in place saying no more regular cars can be sold starting in 2035. Of course, with a nice exception for Ferraris.

These dystopian things are happening now, I'm not imagining things.

>>jiofj+F
A town with no cars is about the least dystopian thing I can imagine.

Banning them all would make my life difficult in many ways, but there would be some really huge upsides.

>>jiofj+F
That's all.. specifically what I said I'm against? They're politicians and corporations manipulating you with distractions. Degrowth and permaculture are about yourself, not other people.

>>lostlo+x1
> there would be some really huge upsides.

You can live in Mackinak and try out the no car lifestyle. Watch out for the crap and piss in the gutters. https://www.michigan.org/city/mackinac-island