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1. Albert+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-09-01 04:18:27
There are several apps for your phone that teach knots.
replies(2): >>DanAtC+a1 >>fragme+va
2. DanAtC+a1[view] [source] 2023-09-01 04:31:18
>>Albert+(OP)
Web > proprietary apps
replies(2): >>Albert+D2 >>zefhou+wc
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3. Albert+D2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-01 04:48:52
>>DanAtC+a1
Silly comment. They both have their uses.
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4. fragme+va[view] [source] 2023-09-01 06:09:14
>>Albert+(OP)
The linked website is creator of one of those apps, specifically https://apps.apple.com/us/app/animated-knots-by-grog/id37630...
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5. zefhou+wc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-01 06:30:44
>>DanAtC+a1
In this case, a web app is hardly going to help me when I’m camping with no internet connection. But a native app with good offline support is exactly what I would want.

And while web apps have plenty of practical benefits, those are mostly from the perspective of the developer. As a user, once an app is downloaded, good native apps are preferable just about every time.

replies(1): >>Albert+vn1
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6. master+gx[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-01 10:07:13
>>Albert+D2
why do you think it's silly? The offline functionality could have been implemented with the website too. I don't see any benefit in this use case for an app. But it has the downside that an app has possibilities to screw my system or track me unnoticed. So if you do not need special native features and you are not a computationally expensive product, please built a good offline capable website and not an app.

Please tell me where the app has "it's uses" here?

replies(2): >>KomoD+rI >>Albert+Xm1
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7. KomoD+rI[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-01 11:41:46
>>master+gx
> But it has the downside that an app has possibilities to screw my system or track me unnoticed

How is it going to screw your system? And just disallow running in background, disallow internet access if you are on mobile. I don't want to fiddle around with my browser when I can install a light-weight app.

Not everyone is a "wow all apps very scary" person

replies(1): >>Albert+pv1
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8. Albert+Xm1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-01 15:24:34
>>master+gx
Why is it silly? Because knot tying is about as harmless as it gets. This isn't the Twitter or LinkedIn app. From my memory of when I had one of these apps, it didn't even ask for my name.

People like making apps, and users seem to like them, too. Grow up.

replies(1): >>master+8k8
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9. Albert+vn1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-01 15:27:16
>>zefhou+wc
Thanks, camping is the killer use case. And the one I used to have didn't even ask for my name.
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10. Albert+pv1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-01 16:03:52
>>KomoD+rI
and note the comment above by someone else about camping without Internet access.

If I were installing a knot app and it required enrolling me in their Knot Tying Social Network, I'd uninstall. In fact, if it couldn't run in Airplane Mode, I'd uninstall it.

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11. master+8k8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-09-04 09:33:29
>>Albert+Xm1
What a standpoint...

> knot tying is about as harmless as it gets

What does this have to do with my argument? Maybe it's less likely to screw my system intentionally then, but it might still track me. How do you know the app is not as bad as Twitter or LinkedIn?

> People like making apps, and users seem to like them, too. Grow up.

I am just showing a path to an alternate better future. If you don't like questioning the status quo because you think everybody is currently happy, fine. But asking me to grow up because I am worried about corporations having more access to my devices than they need seems unfair.

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