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1. orwin+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-08-26 10:31:27
We not only have a better life expectancy (6years for men?), we also have a better 'good health' expectancy.

Economic growth is stagnant because energy production and energy import are stagnant. This has little to do with policy. It's 2011 all over again, when we heard all sort of 'southern Europeans are lazy/corrupt' and other shit. I even bought it like a good child. No. Southern Europeans economies used to depend a lot on north sea and Sahara oil and gas, and the reserves (and production) started declining in 2008 and 2010 respectively. Only oil producers, Russian clients and 'nuclear-based' economies managed to avoid crisis.

What is funny now that everybody speak about how Germany economy is in crisis. Well yeah. Same causes, same consequences.

I really don't see how it seems no one gets it. I understand politics wanting to grandstand and explain how growth is caused their policies, but I mean, the data is available. And we have panda. Look at oil import data from Italy then look at growth, from 2010 to 2012,its obvious one of the two is driving the other. Check the other 'PIGS', it's the same.

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2. pleoxy+Nk[view] [source] 2023-08-26 13:33:02
>>orwin+(OP)
> Economic growth is stagnant because energy production and energy import are stagnant. This has little to do with policy.

I can't think of an area of the economy anywhere that is more policy based than energy.

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3. orwin+Jk1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-26 20:29:47
>>pleoxy+Nk
Electricity is 50% of the energy France use. That is policy-based, maybe. hydro is maxed out, we can't install more renewable because producers in Asia are at capacity. The only part we really control is nuclear power. So 30% of French energy depends on policy.

Area more depending on policy: construction, food production, Healthcare, education, military.

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