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1. dang+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:30:11
The word censorship has so many meanings that I have to ask what you mean by it before I can say whether I see it that way.

Is it censorship that the rules of chess say you can't poke someone's queen off the board? We're trying to play a particular game here.

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2. mutant+E[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:35:30
>>dang+(OP)
> The word censorship has so many meanings that I have to ask what you mean by it before I can say whether I see it that way.

Perhaps its one of those things that are hard to define. [1] But that doesn't mean clear cases don't exist.

> Is it censorship that the rules of chess say you can't poke someone's queen off the board? We're trying to play a particular game here.

No, but it is clearly political censorship if you only apply the unwritten and secret "rules" of the game to a particular political faction. Also, banning entire domain names is definitely heavy-handed.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it

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3. monkey+I[view] [source] 2023-08-15 04:36:31
>>dang+(OP)
that is a very interesting way of communicating that point. thank you filing that away :)
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4. lcnPyl+i3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-15 05:08:37
>>mutant+E
> political faction

I remember some words that succinctly express something I often observe. To paraphrase:

> Left-wing and Right-wing are terms which make a lot of people falsely believe that they disagree with each other.

It is worth trying to find common ground with people “on the other side”.

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5. rhaksw+v3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-15 05:10:15
>>mutant+E
> censorship if you only apply the unwritten and secret "rules"

I mostly agree. I argued in an article [1] that it's only censorship if the author of the content is not told about the action taken against the content.

These days though, mods and platforms will generally argue that they're being transparent by telling you that it happens. When it happens is another story altogether that is often not shared.

[1] https://www.removednews.com/p/twitters-throttling-of-what-is...

6. zepole+qf[view] [source] 2023-08-15 07:21:05
>>dang+(OP)
Censorship has a very defined meaning. To take the chess analogy, it would be like allowing one side to poke the queen off the board, and not allow the other. This is very much like what happens at HN today.

You're dang right, trying to play a particular [rigged] game here.

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7. dang+3i[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-15 07:51:10
>>zepole+qf
What side do you feel is not allowed to play here?
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8. sander+LG1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-15 17:24:03
>>zepole+qf
What is the "very defined meaning" that you're thinking of?

The one that I think makes the most clear sense is "censorship" by a state power. But you must be thinking of something different, because HN is not a state power.

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