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Police stage ‘chilling’ raid on Marion County newspaper

submitted by _delir+(OP) on 2023-08-12 01:27:10 | 275 points 122 comments
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5. backen+a5[view] [source] 2023-08-12 02:20:07
>>_delir+(OP)
Am I missing something? There's no [federal] shield law protecting journalists in the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_laws_in_the_United_Stat...

"There is no federal shield law and state shield laws vary in scope."

https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1241/shield-law...

"There is no federal shield law"

Not even former or sitting presidents are protected.

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9. asdfsd+y5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-12 02:23:54
>>backen+a5
There are also state laws in the USA. This was in Kansas.

https://www.rcfp.org/privilege-compendium/kansas/#:~:text=Th....

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10. fnordp+H5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-12 02:25:20
>>backen+a5
Linked in the original the article:

> The search warrant, signed by Marion County District Court Magistrate Judge Laura Viar, appears to violate federal law* that provides protections against searching and seizing materials from journalists. The law requires law enforcement to subpoena materials instead. Viar didn’t respond to a request to comment for this story or explain why she would authorize a potentially illegal raid.

* https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2000aa

29. wishfi+o7[view] [source] 2023-08-12 02:43:16
>>_delir+(OP)
I'm not in Marion County but I am in the general vicinity. This is both surprising and unsurprising. And probably explains why my own county's newspaper sticks to stories about school board meetings and who had the winning hog at 4H. My county may be as corrupt as Marion, or it might be fine. All I can know is gossip and reading in between the lines of Facebook comments. There's no oversight beyond unverified hearsay.

What the Marion County Record is doing is incredibly vital for their community. I just went to their web page. They currently don't have a fundraiser yet, but I hope they'll start one.

http://marionrecord.com/

30. pushcx+v7[view] [source] 2023-08-12 02:44:19
>>_delir+(OP)
According to the paper's recent reporting, a prominent local businessperson, Kari Newell, had been driving while her licence was suspended for drunk driving, with the knowledge of local police.

http://marionrecord.com/dispatch/police_raid_newspaper_offic...

Previously she had accused the newspaper of obtaining the information illegally.

http://marionrecord.com/dispatch/restaurateur_accuses_paper_...

There's also a headline from their last week's issue, "Media ejected from open forum" that seems likely to be related. Google's cache of the article is at: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http%3... so I'll give a relevant quote for when that expires:

> Two representatives of the news media were ordered by Marion police chief Gideon Cody to leave a public reception Tuesday for U.S. Rep. Jake LaTurner.

> Cody’s directions came at the behest of Kari Newell, proprietor of Chef’s Plate in Marion’s Historic Elgin Hotel and its coffee shop across the street, Kari’s Kitchen, where the event was taking place.

> Cody said that Newell asked that Record publisher Eric Meyer and Record reporter Phyllis Zorn be evicted before LaTurner arrived.

> Moments before Cody ordered Meyer and Zorn to leave, Newell had told Zorn: “I will not have members of the media in my establishment. You have to leave.”

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42. shawnc+2b[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-12 03:23:02
>>amoshi+Fa
The 1 in 3-2-1 would ensure you have a copy offsite as well.

https://www.uschamber.com/co/run/technology/3-2-1-backup-rul...

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46. kolano+wb[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-12 03:28:07
>>lkjsdl+V4
In many U.S. states (including Kansas) a magistrate doesn't need a law degree or to be a lawyer. [0]

[0]: https://www.propublica.org/article/these-judges-can-have-les...

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57. x86_64+vc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-12 03:38:38
>>wyldfi+X3
I'm not sure about the particular locale mentioned, but in places I've lived, magistrates need no law education of any kind, and have enormous power.

https://www.sccourts.org/summaryCourtBenchBook/HTML/GeneralB....

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58. wtalli+xc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-12 03:39:23
>>teduna+Z5
Yes. See https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2000aa-6

> (a) Right of action

> A person aggrieved by a search for or seizure of materials in violation of this chapter shall have a civil cause of action for damages for such search or seizure—

> (1) against the United States, against a State which has waived its sovereign immunity under the Constitution to a claim for damages resulting from a violation of this chapter, or against any other governmental unit, all of which shall be liable for violations of this chapter by their officers or employees while acting within the scope or under color of their office or employment; and [...]

And https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2000aa-7

> (c) “Any other governmental unit”, as used in this chapter, includes the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, any territory or possession of the United States, and any local government, unit of local government, or any unit of State government.

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105. sramam+gJ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-12 18:02:15
>>kolano+Ja
As a first generation immigrant to the US, the parent story struck a deep (dis) chord.

Your comment brought back memories of growing up in India.

The idea of a "Panchayat" was taught in schools as both an ancient form of local/self governance and a modern answer to effective governance in post partition India. Even Gandhi promoted it as a pillar of India's self-rule.

Basically, village "elders" land up passing judgement on disputes. Most of these people were "respected" but uneducated. Their world views were very narrow.

As can be expected, it wasn't uncommon for their biases to result in "justice" that would be totally unacceptable when viewed through a broader lens.

After decades in the US, to discover that something like this can happen in 21st century USA is really unsettling. I'm having trouble explaining (even to myself) the anguish I feel.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panchayati_raj

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106. marcus+CJ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-12 18:04:48
>>bright+tG1
Not in the same way as you and me. They can be voted out of office (if elected,) impeached, or censured, but they enjoy judicial immunity[0] for their acts as a judge. They cannot be sued for acts they commit as a judge, no matter how egregious[1].

0 - this is as close to absolute immunity as exists in the law. In fact, you could, with a straight face and clean conscience call it absolute immunity.

1 - no, seriously. They can, for instance order an underage girl to be sterilized in an ex-parte hearing and face no consequences. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stump_v._Sparkman

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107. sramam+3L1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-12 18:17:00
>>x86_64+vc
The geekery that is HN. TIL about scroll-to-text-fragment!

https://caniuse.com/url-scroll-to-text-fragment

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108. overlo+gM1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-12 18:24:27
>>efitz+7I1
Here's a taste - the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (often referred to as the FISA court) authorizes security agencies to spy on US citizens. The court proceedings are secret, and the party being surveilled is unable to participate and is not aware of any of the proceedings. In terms of warrants issued:

> From 1979 through 2012, the court overseeing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act has rejected only 11 of the more than 33,900 surveillance applications by the government

> "The FISA system is broken. At the point that a FISA judge can compel the disclosure of millions of phone records of U.S. citizens engaged in only domestic communications, unrelated to the collection of foreign intelligence…there is no longer meaningful judicial review," Mr. Rotenberg said.

Story by the Wall Street Journal https://archive.ph/lafXz

116. wishfi+vq2[view] [source] 2023-08-13 00:09:59
>>_delir+(OP)
I'm sure not many are still reading the comments on this post, but for those few who are left, here's the statement from the Marion Police. Says nothing and says everything:

The Marion Kansas Police Department has has several inquiries regarding an ongoing investigation.

As much as I would like to give everyone details on a criminal investigation I cannot. I believe when the rest of the story is available to the public, the judicial system that is being questioned will be vindicated.

I appreciate all the assistance from all the State and Local investigators along with the entire judicial process thus far.

Speaking in generalities, the federal Privacy Protection Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 2000aa-2000aa-12, does protect journalists from most searches of newsrooms by federal and state law enforcement officials. It is true that in most cases, it requires police to use subpoenas, rather than search warrants, to search the premises of journalists unless they themselves are suspects in the offense that is the subject of the search.

The Act requires criminal investigators to get a subpoena instead of a search warrant when seeking “work product materials” and “documentary materials” from the press, except in circumstances, including: (1) when there is reason to believe the journalist is taking part in the underlying wrongdoing.

The Marion Kansas Police Department believes it is the fundamental duty of the police is to ensure the safety, security, and well-being of all members of the public. This commitment must remain steadfast and unbiased, unaffected by political or media influences, in order to uphold the principles of justice, equal protection, and the rule of law for everyone in the community. The victim asks that we do all the law allows to ensure justice is served. The Marion Kansas Police Department will nothing less.

https://www.facebook.com/marionpoliceks/posts/pfbid0cch8ULTS...

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