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Serial murders have dwindled, thanks to improved technology

submitted by fortra+(OP) on 2023-08-06 21:55:34 | 78 points 80 comments
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1. hoppyh+c5[view] [source] 2023-08-06 22:33:26
>>fortra+(OP)
Gift Article link: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/06/nyregion/serial-killers-g...
12. metada+tg[view] [source] 2023-08-07 00:01:14
>>fortra+(OP)
https://archive.today/EFeEG
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13. runjak+Ng[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-07 00:05:36
>>chubot+sg
There’s an LE chart floating around out there, slightly different than this[1] that shows how long carriers keep records.

AT&T in particular keeps records forever. I suspect all the other carriers do as well despite their claims.

1. https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_nbcnews-ux...

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17. metada+Wi[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-07 00:22:58
>>bombca+Nh
This?

https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/search-and-rescue/search...

Bombcar, my good HN buddy, it'd be great if you included the link rather than a few keywords. I've never heard of any of these people before. Additionally, lots of people won't bother to search and won't ever see the cool, interesting thing. Unless that's your intent.. ;)

<3

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46. bombca+Qu[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-07 02:10:17
>>nocoin+cu
Now that I'm at computer I can note that Bill was found: https://youtu.be/2J9wsJb8P1Y
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48. achero+Yv[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-07 02:19:51
>>Taylor+xk
Saying “me too” like some brain dead AOLer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos

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54. zer8k+6E[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-07 03:33:53
>>revsca+Kp
> Fewer children means greater economic strength.

I don't think you understand the utility of having children. Neoliberals love this position because it effectively supports importing as many immigrants as possible for megacorps to pay bottom dollar to. There's an entire industry (industrial farming) that loves this.

> Less stress means better childrearing.

The context of this statement is not supported by the unmitigated economic disaster we are currently in, and have been in, since at least the great financial crisis.

> Abortion is an unmitigated good for most women who choose it.

Have you ever wondered why you can almost predict the location of abortion clinics by the number of pawn shops and pay day loan centers? When you break down those locations by race it may become more clear. Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist and racist [0][1] who wished abortion to be used to clean out the mental defectives. Her own words: “the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective,” [0]. What's funny is I could've swapped her name out with any 19th and 20th century dictator and you'd believe me.

It would be wonderful if activists stopped hiding behind the banner of freedom and acknowledge the roots of their alleged "unmitigated good".

[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2020/07/21/pl...

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20221104040930/https://www.pbs.o...

55. hedora+1H[view] [source] 2023-08-07 04:02:21
>>fortra+(OP)
> By 2018, there were only 12 known serial killers and 44 victims, according to the report

Ok, I’m calling bullshit. There were 27 mass shooting events with >= 4 dead in the US in 2018:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_th...

(I used 4 dead as the cutoff, since it is close to the mean in the article’s data set.)

If you count people that managed to shoot at least 4 others, then there were 323 attempted serial murders, “resulting in 387 deaths and 1,283 injuries, for a total of 1,670 victims.”

The article may as well be titled “Serial murders can mow be performed in under an hour, thanks to improved technology”

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64. dang+VL[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-07 04:44:12
>>blackp+7j
Empty comments can be ok if they're positive. There's nothing wrong with submitting a comment saying just "Thanks." What we especially discourage are comments that are empty and negative—comments that are mere name-calling.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20090206141746/http://www.ycombi...

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67. dredmo+7Q[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-07 05:29:50
>>runjak+Ng
AT&T doesn't merely keep call record data, but does so explicitly to share it with law enforcement. Going back to the 1980s.

<https://www.eff.org/cases/hemisphere>

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_detail_record>

<http://epic.org/privacy/nsa/Section-215-Order-to-Verizon.pdf>

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69. dredmo+BR[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-07 05:44:18
>>p3rls+bJ
KDR, for the uninitiated, is "kill-to-death ratio":

<https://www.cyberdefinitions.com/definitions/KDR.html>

Kills are by the shooter, death is of the shooter.

71. r13a+1u1[view] [source] 2023-08-07 11:22:08
>>fortra+(OP)
The article thesis about technology impact on the prevalence of serial killers doesn't really hold up against the fact that rate of unsolved homicides has sky rocketed since the 60's [1]. One could offer a lot of speculations on how to reconcile the disappearance of "traditional' serial killers with the jump of unsolved homicides. For instance, I have read in the past articles about "experts" warning about a possible epidemic of undetected serial killers...

[1] https://www.murderdata.org/2015/01/how-many-unsolved-murders...

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73. ecf+BG1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-07 12:55:12
>>dogmat+Bh
The driver was most likely on their phone when it happened, so hopefully there will be some charges filed. I would love to see the precedent set where killing someone while distracted is treated as murder.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/31/1191096086/cyclist-magnus-whi...

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79. prepen+Fq5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-08 12:41:33
>>themer+4p
> Long term storage would have been crazy expensive

Not really, an SMS is probably only 200-500bytes to store with metadata so let’s say 1kb just for simplicity.

This site estimates 8.4 trillion SMS per year, globally [0].

So that’s only 8.4trillion kb or 8.4 petabytes.

That’s big, but that’s the whole world.

For comparison, google stores about 2,500 petabytes per day. [1]

So I would guess that not only do they store this forever. There’s also lots of copies and that there’s probably LE firms mining texts for all sorts of pattern recognition, AI stuff.

[0] https://www.sellcell.com/blog/how-many-text-messages-are-sen...

[1] https://skill-lync.com/blogs/how-google-handles-over-40000-p...

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