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1. true_r+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-08-05 19:44:46
You can definitely hate stuff and be more productive when it occurs.

Imagine how high productivity would be if managers were allowed to literally crack the whip at engineers who slow down after working for 10 hours a day.

We don’t allow that because it’s inhumane. I think a similar principle applies to WFH. Even if it’s less productive it’s still better for society.

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2. bitcha+k2[view] [source] 2023-08-05 20:02:40
>>true_r+(OP)
Are you serious or just trolling?

> Imagine how high productivity would be if managers were allowed to literally crack the whip at engineers who slow down after working for 10 hours a day.

I'll tell you what would happen. The engineers would quit on the spot and you'd end up with a sea of empty desks.

Why are some managers so dense? Is this an ego thing?

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3. flir+Lk[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-05 22:41:07
>>bitcha+k2
It's hyperbole.
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4. hdjjhh+U51[view] [source] 2023-08-06 07:59:15
>>true_r+(OP)
Yeah I saw people trying this on me and on others in various forms, especially in the 90s. It failed or backfired every time.
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5. hdjjhh+ZX1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-06 15:53:22
>>flir+Lk
OK, so if you reduce this hyperbole to a normal statement, the parent says you can make people work harder by using negative reinforcement such as harsh words, for example.

Well, it might work for some people, but I guess only short term and they will leave at the first opportunity.

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6. true_r+Xo2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-06 18:12:17
>>hdjjhh+ZX1
Sure, but just like return to office rhetoric, executives will conspire to make sure there is no opportunity to opt out because all workplaces use the same abusive system.

It’s not really just a thought experiment.

Terrible things like slavery and indentured servitude aren’t wide spread because they are illegal… not because they wouldn’t be wildly popular with the class of people who could actually buy slaves and hire overseers to whip them.

In the past scheme, it may have been indentured servants getting the whip, but today it may be undocumented immigrants and H1B1 workers tethered to their current job.

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7. hdjjhh+QM2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-06 20:36:13
>>true_r+Xo2
Sure, but fortunately we have competition and as long as there are companies willing to hire remote workers, they will have a strong advantage over those who don't, and employees will have a choice.
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