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1. orionb+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-08-02 02:15:56
People are moving to Linux because they can't upgrade to Win 11 due to hardware requirements.
replies(4): >>duped+O >>Clamch+o2 >>nathan+N8 >>rpigab+xH
2. duped+O[view] [source] 2023-08-02 02:21:28
>>orionb+(OP)
No, they're buying Steam Decks.
3. Clamch+o2[view] [source] 2023-08-02 02:35:13
>>orionb+(OP)
There's no urgency to upgrade to Windows 11 so this doesn't make any sense.
replies(2): >>acomje+S8 >>BlueTe+ns3
4. nathan+N8[view] [source] 2023-08-02 03:37:58
>>orionb+(OP)
dual ssd, dual boot.

my windows never gets updated because any update could break gaming.

my linux gets updated daily, when something breaks it’s easy to rollback and pin.

replies(2): >>Woeps+Dv >>yomlic+LU
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5. acomje+S8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 03:38:37
>>Clamch+o2
My boss got a windows laptop (11). She was having trouble logging in. Our IT guys solution was moving it to windows 10.

MS owns gaming but they can’t seem to get out of their own way in making a respectful OS without ads, forced online accounts and telemetry. It’s kinda embarrassing in the corporate world when people open edge to the default edge home page..

I have a steam deck but my Linux laptop games well.

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6. Woeps+Dv[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 07:41:36
>>nathan+N8
This is the way!,

Tough I personally stopped dual booting with Windows due to their updates policy.

Sometimes I would not boot into it for months and then unskippable (or I forgot to skips them) updates would ruin that one hour of gaming I might have available...

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7. nathan+wz[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 08:17:06
>>Woeps+Dv
atlas-os or hellzerg/optimizer can make windows semi-usable for gaming. they never update again.
8. rpigab+xH[view] [source] 2023-08-02 09:48:17
>>orionb+(OP)
I've installed W11 on a used laptop I intend to sell extra cheap, using a ISO gen tool to ignore the stupid requirements and it seems to work well (for now).

Apart from multiplayer games with kernel anti cheat and some games unsupported by Proton, I see no reason to install Windows on my next gaming PC or any other PC of mine. I have a Steam Deck, a Linux laptop and a gaming PC with dual boot.

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9. yomlic+LU[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 12:00:36
>>nathan+N8
I have a Windows VM on my main machine that I pass a GPU to for playing games. The idea was I'd just snapshot the disk so if windows hosed me I could roll back. In practice I just play games in linux through proton or native though. The Windows install always needs updates so it is a chore when I actually want to use it.

As an aside, I cannot believe how it is impossible to script the base windows install to do updates through the command line on a strict schedule! I ended up having to install some 3rd party powershell package and I still have some annoying limitations around feature updates with it. This should be built in!

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10. BluePe+ot1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 14:59:57
>>yomlic+LU
Do you just use virtual box for something like this?

I split my time between two places, and game infrequently which means my SFF gaming PC is often still in the box until I need it, at which point Windows updates can waste the time I had for gaming.

Would love a way to use my laptop to keep some Windows VM snapshot up to date. Windows has ruined more gaming sessions than it’s provided for me lately.

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11. yomlic+Hz1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 15:26:51
>>BluePe+ot1
I use QEMU/KVM/Libvirt. Virtualbox had experimental passthrough support for awhile but I believe they removed it.
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12. BlueTe+ns3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-02 23:42:25
>>Clamch+o2
There's urgency to stop using Windows 7 though. Qt has already dropped it, and Chrome (used in a lot of 3rd party programs like Steam will be dropping it in less than half a year).

(And Windows 8+ is not acceptable, 11 is just even worse than 10.)

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13. fsflov+6w8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-08-04 12:14:51
>>yomlic+Hz1
Alternatively, you could use Qubes OS for that: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows, https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#can-i-run-applications-like-ga...
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