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1. raxxor+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-28 07:05:13
The force for centralization is that for social networks it simply is the natural topography. People are drawn to where everybody else is, so something being central is a main attractor, even if we disregard the ambitions for reach. Spam is a secondary factor at best.

While Spam is a problem and affects decentralized systems more easily (if they have a critical number of users), the cost of client attestation is just too high.

I am perfectly happy if the web and stays open and a lot of people go into the app space and stay there. I am happy for facebook and don't think I am missing out on the web. I don't use any apps for social media and exclusively use browsers. I wouldn't want a second app space on the web at all because the mobile environment is an ugly abomination of software crap.

If we have a form of RA, it will get worse for users and developers alike. It will be a far worse hassle than killing a bit of spam and we give the wrong players too much power.

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2. mike_h+g2[view] [source] 2023-07-28 07:29:04
>>raxxor+(OP)
Perhaps. Email, IRC, USENET and the phone system are or were all decentralized social networks. They did fine in their heydey.

If you're a 2023-web purist who's willing to just avoid whole services because they're not on your preferred platform, then hw-backed web RA would make no difference to you even if it could be implemented (which IMO it can't): you'd avoid the services that use it just like you already do today.

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3. raxxor+af[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-28 09:51:13
>>mike_h+g2
This is not realistic outlook. If such systems are present, I would see additional hurdles along the way, just we see by Cloudflare if your requests aren't of the usual kind. This does make web discoverability much worse.

It is simply the wrong approach to focus on the negative, in this case spam or in general hostile bots.

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