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1. Zak+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-27 13:56:05
> Arguing that you would be dead if your viewpoint isn't correct is a bad argument

When discussing tradeoffs, it's not about correctness but value judgments. Is it preferable for people like geocar to die than to continue allowing people to access all websites with arbitrary devices and software?

Of course, there are services that could be exposed through a website where the consequences of improper use would be catastrophic, but I would argue the web is usually inappropriate for control of life-critical systems without other safeguards or redundancies.

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2. charci+Pu[view] [source] 2023-07-27 15:53:18
>>Zak+(OP)
My point is that he wouldn't die if attestation on the web had existed, but is saying that he would be dead to try and manipulate the people he is arguing with.
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3. Zak+P71[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-27 18:14:17
>>charci+Pu
We know neither their story nor the full impact of web attestation if Google is successful in popularizing it. It definitely has the potential to shift a huge amount of power to site owners from users, which constrains what kind of software can become popular.

Might that apply to the software geocar credits with saving their life? Without knowing more, we can't say. There's a good chance it applies to things like running open source operating systems and browsers.

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4. charci+bB1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-27 20:30:39
>>Zak+P71
>which constrains what kind of software can become popular.

It also enables more software to be popular because it will be cheaper to run sites and sites can be more profitable that before.

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