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1. coldte+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-27 07:44:30
Yes, it's not like a country is it's people and their culture and achievements stemming from those, and that if the "country is good" it's because of that.

No, a country is just a landmass, and when "Japanese become the minority" that would be a problem solved (the problem being entitled people from outside the country wanting in).

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2. anovik+T3[view] [source] 2023-07-27 08:16:49
>>coldte+(OP)
Well, in any case, there are only 3 ways out of it:

- Japan becomes an almost empty and stateless or only having a nominal state, landmass with very little population and no functioning economy (no transport network, no electricity grid etc). Unlikely - it's climate is too good.

- It gets militarily taken over as soon it's too weak to defend itself. Likely but undesirable because you don't get to pick who takes you over and that will be by definition someone hostile.

- Immigration and replacement. This is the most beneficial of the realistic options. Because you get to pick the people who replaces you.

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3. anovik+ya[view] [source] 2023-07-27 09:13:54
>>coldte+(OP)
Also i believe that the country is first and foremost, a landmass - with geological, hydrological etc features defining their resource base and transportation abilities and thus what they can do and what they can't, and what's optimal for them, plus a political system that is built to make the optimal use for the former. Gradual replacement of people with another can still keep all of it in place and maintain qualities of a nation from the standpoint of average consumer as more or less the same. Plus, if you invite immigrants, you get to pick the best of them, so probably you won't harm your overall population quality.
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4. Shaani+ci[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-27 10:13:19
>>anovik+T3
This assumes that the trend of a decreasing population is a fact which cannot be reversed, which seems quite defeatist.
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5. fomine+0n[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-27 10:49:42
>>Shaani+ci
It's most realistic scenario. Also even if birthrate is doubled immediately, it takes 18-24 years to those people start working.

Let's see birthrate forecast graph by govt https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2zKUeHVoAA3ufi?format=jpg&name=...

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6. isykt+xp[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-27 11:11:29
>>Shaani+ci
It’s not defeatist, it’s demography. The replacement rate for a country is 2.1. Japan’s birth rate is 1.3. Japan fell below replacement rate in 1975. Their economy faltered in the 90s and has never recovered. Add in massive urbanization and a work culture that literally has a word for “death from overwork”… yeah, a country doesn’t bounce back from that.

Oh, but buckle up my friend, because Japan isn’t an outlier. It’s ahead of the curve for a majority of the world’s societies.

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