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1. yonata+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-26 18:46:18
Exactly, if people want to create bots, at the end of the days we'll end up with VMs running AutoHotkey and Chrome, or physical machines with fake mice and keyboards, or actual computer setups with robot arms moving the mouse around, there's no stopping bots
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2. lxgr+j2[view] [source] 2023-07-26 18:54:51
>>yonata+(OP)
Well, not if you ultimately tie something like WEI to hardware attestation. Then fraudsters would have to buy additional devices, which is not a complete deterrent [1], but would change the economics significantly.

But many here are (in my view rightly) arguing that this would be too high a price to pay for bot/spam protection, since it would almost inevitably cement the browser, OS, and device monoculture even further.

[1] https://www.cultofmac.com/311171/crazy-iphone-rig-shows-chin...

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3. Urd-+pn[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-26 20:16:48
>>lxgr+j2
>Then fraudsters would have to buy additional devices

Which a lot of them already do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsCJU9djdIc

Or just use a botnet to steal use of someone else's hardware, which is also very common for malicious bots.

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