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1. shortr+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-26 18:25:41
I can see it being useful to have a feature which could validate if another user on a website is a human. e.g: on reddit or twitter, the user you're talking to has a little checkmark (not the blue checkmark) next to their name if they've been WEI validated. Rather than refusing to let a user use the platform, just letting other users know that the person you're talking to isn't a bot
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2. Pannon+x[view] [source] 2023-07-26 18:27:49
>>shortr+(OP)
WEI doesn't check whether they are a bot though.... they can trivially use a "trusted" browser setup and just automate it with Selenium or whatever. Or in a worst-case scenario, a $5 robot arm, with a perfectly attested browser.

The whole "this will block bots" part of the spec is complete bollocks and a red herring to distract from the real purpose - to block adblockers and competition from new browsers. And DRM, of course.

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3. erosen+W7[view] [source] 2023-07-26 18:55:28
>>shortr+(OP)
If McDonald's required 12 year-olds to use an ordering app because their banknotes might be stolen, would that be a reasonable compromise? Foreclosing the possibility of children not being tracked (which is illegal, btw) in exchange for some marginal benefit for big tech?
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4. OfSang+z8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-26 18:57:41
>>erosen+W7
Funnily enough, the McDonalds app has been claimed to require Safety Net verification on Android.
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5. pptr+gc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-26 19:11:37
>>Pannon+x
I guess it depends how far the certification goes.

If even extensions can be detected, why wouldn't selenium be detected? Granted, I don't know how it works exactly.

In addition to the 5$ robot arm you need to add 200$ for the device it is operating. Drastically raising the cost to run a bot farm is key. You can't fully eliminate inauthentic behavior, but you can make a lot of it unprofitable.

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6. JohnFe+Ll[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-26 19:50:16
>>pptr+gc
You don't have to use selenium. You can use any software that can read video memory and act as a mouse and keyboard. It doesn't have to be an extension. The browser isn't directly involved, so vetting the browser or hardware does no good.
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