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> Remember when Apple killed Flash?

Yes. Every SECOPS person let out a collective sigh of relief when the weekly p0 patches for flash stopped coming. Apple may have been trying to push towards 'native' apps but that was almost certainly secondary; safari was leading the way on html5 APIs.

Let's not pretend that the death of Flash was a tragedy.

>>baby_s+(OP)
It was a tragedy for creativity. But that's often the last item on peoples' lists.

>>raspyb+73
Security people hate features and creativity. There is never any tradeoff allowed. It's always more lockdown, more power for them over you.

>>downWi+j6
> Security people hate features and creativity.

Not all of us. _This_ security guy just didn't like having to patch an entire fleet against a new critical exploit in the flash VM every week.

>>raspyb+73
At the time (2013ish), I was working with a company that used to make a lot of very cool stuff in Flash; we were already starting most new projects in HTML5, and (coincidentally) the company was also growing like crazy (also in terms of new hires).

With that, at one point we actually started running low on physical space in the office. We've had a running joke (started by a Flash dev of course) that we'll just move all of the remaining Flash guys to the toilet...

But in all honesty, Flash was a terrible, absolutely horrible technology. I was lucky enough that I've only had to work with it from the backend, but I still remember the dread.

I think Adobe missed a huge opportunity where they could have built new tooling and a framework to target HTML5.