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But you can still get computers that have none of that stuff, or where it can be disabled.

>>JohnFe+(OP)
Can you give me an example?

A computer without TPM, a "management engine", an Ethernet card with real Firmware in a real ROM, no platform controller, nothing.

...and a completely open BIOS w/o any binary blobs, and UEFI layer.

Almost a 486DX, almost.

>>bayind+dd
I don't have the models memorized and I'm not at home to check, but I recently bought four towers that don't have TPM or a management engine and allow you to disable UEFI. They're not new, true, but they're certainly not 486 level.

> an Ethernet card with real Firmware in a real ROM, no platform controller, nothing. ...and a completely open BIOS w/o any binary blobs

None of which I was talking about. But I am pretty sure that with any motherboard, you can disable onboard Ethernet and install whatever adapter you want instead.