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Viewing the web as a platform for delivering applications, Web Integrity is an obviously good thing that I personally would use as a developer who makes software people pay for.

The opposition listed here is mostly misguided. For example, there is ~0% chance Google breaks "screen readers" or "assistive technologies" with Web Integrity. Saying that they would break seems like a bad faith argument to me.

Fundamentally this is about DRM and whether or not you think it should be allowed. I believe optional DRM for web applications would be good for developers and users of the apps. It would be bad for most other entities (crawlers, scrapers, criminals, etc). So I am in favor of it.

>>mgracz+(OP)
Accessibility isn't just about screen readers. I use extensions to alter page CSS to fix text sizes, contrast, fix Reader Mode, etc. With the Integrity API these could be blocked by the website.

>>mgracz+(OP)
Yeah, the benefits here are pretty cool to think about. The ability to say "you can't access this sensitive web resource until you attest that your system is up to date and an antivirus has run in the last week" is huge. The problem is that sites could also say "and you don't have an adblocker installed".

One option would potentially be to only allow positive assertions - ie: "You are up to date" not "you are not running this". TBH I think that would address a major concern for me.

>>mgracz+(OP)
If people are paying for the software, then they should be able to use the software as they wish.

If you were selling a towel, you wouldn't put restrictions on someone wetting it and using it for hand to hand combat, would you?

>>potami+eL
If it were possible to manufacture towels that couldn't easily be stolen from hotels, then yes I would want that to be allowed. Hotels would like it, and guests who do not steal would benefit from lower prices.

And more directly yes I would want exactly what you're describing to be possible. We do this with alcohol so that rubbing alcohol can be sold at a reasonable price.

>>mgracz+KL
It's possible. You just need to start manufacturing CCTVs, and encourage hotels to install them in their bathrooms to lower costs!