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1. celu+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-23 23:43:40
> A very oversimplified pro argument: if it wasn't for slavery, these families would have generational wealth and better social situations. African Americans in the US ARE disproportionately lower wealth/income and this has CLEAR historical origins.

I'm confused by the pro argument. My known lineage was not enslaved, but my grandparents immigrated with 0$, and my family has no generational wealth and we don't receive reparations.

Isn't being freed from slavery the same as being freshly immigrated with 0$?

Furthermore, there are tons of Asian immigrants that come from a third world country with virtually nothing, but become top earners because of their cultural values of education and filial piety

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2. iamjac+g4[view] [source] 2023-07-24 00:23:07
>>celu+(OP)
> Isn't being freed from slavery the same as being freshly immigrated with 0$?

Well, if you're immigrating, it isn't <country you're moving to>'s fault you have no money.

If you've been enslaved, it's very much <country you were enslaved by>'s fault you have no money.

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3. l33t23+76[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-24 00:40:04
>>iamjac+g4
But it’s not their fault they were born to parents that had no money.
4. tadfis+r6[view] [source] 2023-07-24 00:43:07
>>celu+(OP)
Your grandparents chose to immigrate.
5. snotro+D6[view] [source] 2023-07-24 00:44:58
>>celu+(OP)
> Isn't being freed from slavery the same as being freshly immigrated with 0$?

The US economy, and hence those immigrants, were better off, because of the gains made from slavery.

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6. slashd+K8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-24 01:03:24
>>snotro+D6
By that logic, African-Americans also benefit from that economy, and ironically the gains made from slavery.
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7. slashd+ia[view] [source] 2023-07-24 01:15:36
>>celu+(OP)
One could argue that despite being free, African Americans still had to work against racism, unfair laws, and a system rigged against them in many ways. Those are things a white immigrant wouldn't have had to deal with, but black immigrants would have. Is the black immigrant excluded or included in any potential reparations?
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8. snotro+FN[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-24 07:46:25
>>slashd+K8
Not as much as white people did, and still do.

PS your terminology shows your biases.

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9. slashd+cx1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-24 12:48:47
>>snotro+FN
I’m being called biased by a user with the name snot rocket. What’s wrong with my terminology?
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10. snotro+Id4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-25 03:21:08
>>slashd+cx1
rocketS. Plural.
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