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1. eroppl+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-21 19:01:22
This is a level or two below where my knowledge of the browser trails off, so I'll ask generally: how would this interact with things like the WebKit Content Blocker API?
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2. wmf+k3[view] [source] 2023-07-21 19:16:02
>>eroppl+(OP)
Most likely all extensions and content blockers would be disabled for DRMed sites. Or maybe they'd be enabled but the browser would tell the site you have a blocker enabled and the site would refuse to load.
3. jabban+q3[view] [source] 2023-07-21 19:16:16
>>eroppl+(OP)
Step 1: Sites require a "secure" (read proprietary) browser like "Google Chrome", "Microsoft Edge", "Safari" or refuse to operate.

Step 2: "Secure" browsers change the behavior of their implementation of the Content Blocker API so an industry-accepted "secure" site lile Google Ads can opt-out of being blocked ("You wouldn't want a misconfigured content blocker to accidentally break a verified secure site right?")

Step 3: ??? (Force the users into a take it or leave it choice for whether they want to be part of the internet or not)

Step 4: Profit

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4. joseph+P3[view] [source] 2023-07-21 19:18:00
>>eroppl+(OP)
Either Apple will make their devices refuse to sign the attestation if you're using it, or Google will remove Apple from its list of trusted attesters.
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5. jabban+55[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-21 19:23:30
>>joseph+P3
Or (most likely) they will negotiate how to split the money. Maybe through some kind of safe advertising consortium.

Apple is just fine with collecting user data on platforms so long as they're the only ones doing it. Apple even runs its own ad network over its own app store.

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6. madeof+08[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-21 19:35:32
>>jabban+q3
I don't understand how the Apple that introduced their Content Blocker APIs would choose to invest into this API to kneecap their own content blockers?
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7. jabban+Ra[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-21 19:46:56
>>madeof+08
They wouldn't have to. Unless you use an iDevice you're not using an Apple made browser. (The content blocker API is WebKit so it's used across multiple browsers)

As for revenue from Apple users, they already want to have control over that and would be more than happy if Google and co voluntarily stopped serving their users so they can make ad money off of them on their own terms.

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8. wmf+6b[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-21 19:47:37
>>madeof+08
I can imagine a situation where "low-quality" sites get ad blocked and "high-quality" sites get DRM.
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9. macint+qSd[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-25 23:55:48
>>jabban+55
If you ask anyone who works in advertising they always say Apple has by far the "worst" targeting options. They display ads in the App Store but the data they use to track is usually not very great.
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