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I come from a long line of clinical/medical folks in my family - and me on the tech side of medicine...

That said the following is me talking out my ass, but I have followed a very few number of pancreatic cases - jobs being one... and there is one anecdotal that I would hope people closer to such cases can chime into ; how much wine did these people drink (jobs was a prolific wine drinker)

Im wondering if sulfates from wine are a major player.

https://www.distractify.com/p/patrick-swayze-alcoholic

>>samsta+(OP)
If they were a major player it wouldn’t be so subtle, it would be an industry wide problem. Alcohol causes pancreatic cancer for sure, but sulfites specifically? I’d beed a lot of evidence to believe that.

>>2devnu+H4
Sure, but that shouldnt preclude looking into it...

As you stated "*I need a lot of evidence*" - which is exactly what I am asking for. "Moar evidance"

And sulfates may not be the right metric...

So if we can fully identify dietary commonalities of pancreatic cancer patients, then we can get a little farther down this path to understanding...

What would be the most amazing use of "AI" would be to have a biological model of a pure human body (as far as nutrients and blah blah are concerned) - then cycle through feeding that biology various substances and seeing how it propogates through the system)

>>samsta+(OP)
Anything that I have read about Jobs was that he rarely drank alcohol.

>>samsta+(OP)
Jobs famously didn't drink much alcohol; he was way more into exotic fruit juices and such. Where did you get the idea he did? And what's with the oddly narrow "must be the sulfates, in wine specifically". Why not tannins? Polyphenols? Organic acids? We already know alcohol contributes to a variety of cancers...what compelling evidence is there that sulfate need be involved?

>>kjs3+wg
His Sommelier. I cant go into it. (and still this is not first hand from me - just what I heard... so I accept being completely wrong)

And I didnt meant to narrow - it was the more famous of what you states, and thank you.

My money is on tannins, but that is just me...

>>brando+jd
I withdraw my statmenet because all data conflicts and I have no idea.

>>samsta+8s1
Tannins? Aren't those also in tea? Could you please stop saying such scary things?

>>samsta+(OP)
> Im wondering if sulfates from wine are a major player.

I work in healthcare in one of the wine capitals of the world, Napa County, CA.

We do not have a higher rate of pancreatic cancer than anywhere else. It is average. If sulfates from wine were a factor, it is quite likely that we would have seen a higher rate of pancreatic cancer here.

https://www.countyofnapa.org/DocumentCenter/View/11029/Main-...

>>mcv+DR1
Tannins (and sulfates) are found in all sorts of food. But it's way easier to take the intellectual shortcut and say "it's probably X", instead of "it's probably really complicated and there are a number of factors involved". Some people want simple answers, no matter how complicated the problem is, or how wrong the answer is.

>>jrnich+lZ1
No, its about breast cancer.