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1. winter+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-07-18 13:06:27
>Firefox's Container Tabs is hard for me to imagine losing.

Yes, and the lack of a viable vertical tabs solution for Chrome (though some Chrome based browsers have native implementations).

I am baffled how anyone could still be using horizontal tabs as it is clearly inferior. I am also annoyed as hell that it is not native in Firefox.

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2. seapat+v1[view] [source] 2023-07-18 13:13:47
>>winter+(OP)
What extension do you use for vertical tabs on FF? I tried tree style tabs and sideberry but liked neither.
replies(8): >>seba_d+X2 >>hencoa+j3 >>RunSet+L3 >>alpaca+d4 >>euazOn+T4 >>mixmas+y5 >>winter+xi >>akaij+mw
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3. seba_d+X2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 13:20:05
>>seapat+v1
Not OP, but personally I'm using Tab Center Reborn with a bit of custom browser CSS to make it slide out on hover (so there are only favicons visible until hovered). It's just a vertical UI for tabs with handy filtering entry box, rather than a complex tab management thing like TST. The only thing I'm missing is filtering/jumping to the tabs that play sounds - it's easy to miss a tiny icon when you have thousands of tabs open :P
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4. hencoa+j3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 13:22:14
>>seapat+v1
I use tree style tabs, what don't you like about it?
replies(1): >>seapat+NT6
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5. RunSet+L3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 13:23:47
>>seapat+v1
Out of the box Tree Style Tabs is not very good, due to decisions made by Firefox that are beyond the control of Tree Style Tabs's developer.

Enabling the desired behavior likely requires quite a few steps beyond just installing the extension.

https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/wiki/Code-snippets-fo...

Originally, Firefox had a dropdown menu that allowed the user to choose whether tabs were on the top, bottom, left, or right.

This has been an annoying trend with Firefox for some time. They take the default, expected functionality, marginalize it while saying "Users who prefer the old way can enable it in a setting / extension" and then the setting gets deprecated or the extension stops working.

See also: "Classic Theme Restorer".

All the while software that might work better as an extension is bundled with Firefox and enabled by default. e.g. "Pocket", "Hello".

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6. alpaca+d4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 13:25:42
>>seapat+v1
Tree Style Tabs would be so great if it had folders/nodes for categories of tabs. My workaround are tabs with fittingly named Wikipedia articles, but a builtin feature would be more pleasant to use.
replies(1): >>solark+i8
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7. euazOn+T4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 13:29:08
>>seapat+v1
Tree Style Tabs are great, but y'all should really check out Sideberry! It's modern and works very well.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/

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8. mixmas+y5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 13:31:30
>>seapat+v1
I use “tree tabs” and like it best due to its features like folders and unload-tab. However it is a pain in the ass to configure the theme to look right in dark mode. Plan on investing an hour. But once done is done.
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9. solark+i8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 13:42:22
>>alpaca+d4
Sidebery has this!
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10. dspill+H9[view] [source] 2023-07-18 13:46:47
>>winter+(OP)
> I am baffled how anyone could still be using horizontal tabs

I don't tend to work with a browser full-screen on my larger monitor (2560×1440) instead often using half the screen (so 1280px wide) or there abouts. My other screen is 1080×1920 (standard 1080 but portrait not landscape). In those cases I have less room for tabs on the side. It might be less of an issue but most of the side-tab options I tried had a minimum width noticeably wider than the minimum width of a tab in the standard layout.

What might work for me is tabs that can be flipped from horizontal to vertical at a keystroke, or perhaps even if they reacted to window size (with the default choice being easily overridden).

11. kdklol+sd[view] [source] 2023-07-18 13:59:57
>>winter+(OP)
As a person who habitualy closes everything, I often average around 5 tabs open, rarely going above 10. With so few open at a time, the giant column of vertical space for the tab tree would be a waste of screen real estate, which can be better utilized to open another window i a vertical split arangement, or just for the website's content. Having said that, I know one of my friends has always at minimum 100 tabs open at any time, so he jumped at this feature as soon as ut released. It's a matter of preference I'd say.
replies(2): >>kevinc+Cp >>SAI_Pe+Vs1
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12. alpaca+Yf[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 14:08:19
>>solark+i8
Oh, that looks great, thanks.
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13. winter+xi[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 14:16:42
>>seapat+v1
Sidebery without using trees because they waste valuable tab name space. Having more name space is a key advantage to vertical tabs. I use separate windows for high level categories and use the titler extension to name the windows. Sidebery doesn’t recognize the titles when you want to move a tab to a new window though. That’s one of a few pieces of kruft in my setup.

Mozilla sucks, but it is because all of this should be baked in, not because of pocket or whatever political thing that HN regularly brings up.

I have tried the vertical tab implementation in several other browsers and they are all inferior. Safari’s is hilariously bad.

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14. kevinc+Cp[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 14:38:07
>>kdklol+sd
I'm the same. In the rare case I do have a lot of tabs open it tends to be a queue that I work through in order anyways so having them not fit on screen isn't a problem. My theory is that once I get over 20 tabs or so it will be quicker to just re-open the document (just type a few words in the URL bar and history-search will find it) than actually locate and click it. I'm glad that Firefox is flexible enough for tab hoarders and tab closers. Having a horizontal tab bar that doesn't take up too much space is perfect for me.
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15. akaij+mw[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 15:00:33
>>seapat+v1
I use Sidebery, with some modifications from https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix/wiki/Options
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16. SAI_Pe+Vs1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-18 18:28:55
>>kdklol+sd
The benefit of vertical tabs is (IMO) more about organization than having tons of tabs open. It's particularly useful to have a tree of tabs when browsing API documentation, to allow for quickly navigating to different doc pages in the hierarchy without having to wait for page loads.
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17. seapat+NT6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-07-20 08:20:19
>>hencoa+j3
That I need to install additional extensions for features I wanted and also relying on those extensions to stay maintained. Also I don't like tree structuring generally, because I noticed that that just enables my tab hoarding habit. Configuration was also a bit annoying (in my memory) due to the drop down menus
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