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1. 8note+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-06-21 01:00:46
The only real end to this is reddit taking ownership over moderation, and hiring paid moderators for all the subreddits, turning off user created subreddits.

Maybe it'll also mean turning off user generated content too, and only have admin made posts, the same as Digg did. They could hire the power-users to keep making the relevant posts.

People you don't have on contract are a liability

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2. lrae+c3[view] [source] 2023-06-21 01:23:58
>>8note+(OP)
> The only real end to this is reddit taking ownership over moderation, and hiring paid moderators for all the subreddits, turning off user created subreddits.

how so? there are more than enough moderators left who have no issue with reddit's current behaviour and will continue modding for free.

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3. gardnr+g3[view] [source] 2023-06-21 01:24:15
>>8note+(OP)
They don't need users to generate content anymore. They have LLMs trained to strategically produce the best comments.
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4. over_b+St[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-21 05:46:22
>>gardnr+g3
I wonder how long it would take to notice.

Shadowban all users. Respond to their comments and posts with AI generated responses only visible to the poster. Redditors famously don't want others to know their handle so they won't share it around. You could only tell from a signed out device reading something you commented in.

Flood the site with generated posts and 'engagement' that is all ad friendly. Turn the whole place into Weenie Hut Jr.

Do this pre IPO then bail forever.

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5. ImPost+Iu[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-21 05:53:16
>>lrae+c3
there are more than enough sex offenders willing to step up and replace daycare employees, that doesn't mean it's a good idea
6. KennyB+Mv[view] [source] 2023-06-21 06:04:24
>>8note+(OP)
There's simply no way for that to be economically viable.

That's the whole point of reddit; for various reasons they convinced people to give them fuckloads of free labor.

Reddit brilliantly acted like "king" giving fiefdoms out to mods and pretending like it was "theirs." "Here, dear mod! Here is some internet land to rule mostly as you see fit."

Well...the king demanded a huge tithe, a good portion of the lords told the king his mother was a hamster and his father smelled like elderberries....and the king is now laying down the law and making it very clear who everything actually belongs to.

The problem is: without any lords, the king has no power, because he can't possibly administer all the fiefdoms himself...and right now, a lot of the peasants really fucking hate the king, and like the lords.

Right now spez is trying to scare mods straight and reward those who toe the line by redistributing fiefdoms to them.

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7. muzani+PA[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-21 06:55:18
>>over_b+St
Even when 90% of subs were down, I didn't notice much difference. I visited r/interestingAsFuck several times but it was candy. It's why I delete Reddit every now and then.

There's a lot of reposted content too. I tried to farm r/poetry to feed my LLM, but the top stuff are the same reposted poems and edgy anti-poetry. Reddit could just repost the same thing again and again.

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8. NikkiA+XZ[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-21 10:39:57
>>over_b+St
> Flood the site with generated posts and 'engagement' that is all ad friendly. Turn the whole place into Weenie Hut Jr.

> Do this pre IPO then bail forever.

I wonder if that would constitute what the SEC calls "Internet fraud" at that point.

9. freedi+B61[view] [source] 2023-06-21 11:42:39
>>8note+(OP)
I hope Reddit does exactly that, the better to accelerate it’s destruction.
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10. everfo+SZ1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-21 16:28:29
>>lrae+c3
There probably are, but given the level of malicious compliance the user base has been exhibiting, how many of those mod applicants do you think intend to make another "pictures of John Oliver" rule? How do you separate the legit mods from people who just want to carry on the protest?

I guess they could audit submission history, but there's a chance of that blowing up as users decide the mods are shills. I've rarely seen Reddit as mad as when they decide someone is a shill, and the vitriol is likely to make the new mods' lives hard. Especially so if they're new mods, and aren't as used to people hurling insults and maybe death threats at them (I don't know how likely death threats are, but it seems like everyone with any online visibility gets them these days).

I'm sure they could eventually find mods, but I think there will be chaos in that process. I guess the question is whether they're willing to extend the current chaos to keep free moderation, or if they'd rather pony up some money to end it now.

Edit: added "free" in the last paragraph, last sentence between "keep" and "moderation"

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