zlacker

[parent] [thread] 13 comments
1. wolver+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-06-14 02:34:42
> It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.

The CEO is following the new leadership playbook, which you should recognize by now, as it's used by Musk, crypto leaders, Zuckerberg, and many more inside and outside of tech.

* Fundamentally it's just following the social (media) trend: Demonstrate brazen, over-the-top arrogance, disregard for consequences, and no empathy. I'm sure people recognize that pattern.

* Applied to CEO roles, it means publicly demonstrating contempt toward groups of people who are (individually) weaker than you, including employees, customers, protestors, etc. And it means disregard for consequences, such as Musk's actions when bidding $40 billion for Twitter, and afterward; or much of what has happened in crypto. It demonstrates your power, demonstrates their powerlessness (if they capitulate), and makes you look like you have extreme confidence and little empathy - which is very trendy now, of course. Disregard for consequences works until they occur. It's basic con-person tactics, the most obvious bad sales techniques.

* When challenged, act more aggressively or with more contempt. Double down.

* Play the victim and characterize those who oppose you as violent threats - which again shows disinterest and contempt for them and their arguments. One remarkable place you can see it is some US Supreme Court justices - it's such a powerful trend in 'leadership' that these people with untouchable lifetime positions even do it. (In case you missed it, Reddit's CEO used this technique.)

These 'leaders' protray themselves as brilliant, innovative, and highly capable, and people assume they must be - after all, they run these big companies. They are just corrupt and swept up in the latest fashion. Power corrupts, no surprise.

The sad part is that I see many on the other side of these issues actually believe this crap - they believe they are powerless and unilaterally disarm, as if the leaders are using the Force when they say, 'you have no power' - 'Oh, I guess I have no power' and they despair. (And then they tell everyone else the same.)

At the cost of a little faith in demoracy (write large - the power of individuals working together), they hold all the power. Our ancestors who in the same way built much of the freedom and society we have now, must be amazed. We just give it all away. The worst of our society haven't given it away - look at Bud Light. Reddit should be toast, or at least the CEO. People just wake up and act.

replies(5): >>strunz+Y1 >>was830+o4 >>sdwr+K6 >>nradov+Ra >>IG_Sem+Lg
2. strunz+Y1[view] [source] 2023-06-14 02:53:38
>>wolver+(OP)
Without getting too political... Musk is just following President Trump's playbook. Everything you said describes the same way he behaves.
replies(1): >>duck+B6
3. was830+o4[view] [source] 2023-06-14 03:15:32
>>wolver+(OP)
I'm very interested in the recent origins of this playbook. 'never apologize, never explain' is really old, but it seems to be a thing now
replies(3): >>SpicyL+t8 >>zerohp+pa >>tarsin+Zj
◧◩
4. duck+B6[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 03:37:52
>>strunz+Y1
I don't think Trump invented this playbook if that is what you're saying - the power hungry have done this forever, but we can now just see it all in real time.
replies(1): >>lolind+6h
5. sdwr+K6[view] [source] 2023-06-14 03:39:21
>>wolver+(OP)
Sure... but if you look at recent history, this is a counter-movement to the plastic-y, corpo-speaky, flowery language and stab you in the back (or allow you to rot in the background) type of leadership.

There's a lot of people who prefer, or at least respect, an openly arrogant or dishonest leader. At least you know where you stand then, and are visible. The alternative, a lot of the time, is a leader who pays lipservice to equality, but has the same underlying disrespect.

The dream is being treated as a capable individual, but if a leader isn't willing to see you like that, it's pick your poison.

◧◩
6. SpicyL+t8[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 03:54:58
>>was830+o4
I think it's always been a common playbook. It just doesn't come across as a playbook at all when it works; either you assume the issue must have been minor or you never hear about it at all. (How many people remember the Starbucks strikes in November and December 2022?)
◧◩
7. zerohp+pa[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 04:13:25
>>was830+o4
The president demonstrated it from 2016 to 2020. We are just seeing the copycats now.
replies(1): >>reveli+JF
8. nradov+Ra[view] [source] 2023-06-14 04:17:00
>>wolver+(OP)
Mark Zuckerberg at least doesn't seem particularly arrogant, nor is he playing the victim. During his last interview with Lex Fridman he openly acknowledged past errors and stated that he wasn't sure whether current plans would work. I'm not here to defend him and I disagree with many of his positions but it's worth listening to the interview to gain a more nuanced understanding than the snarky hot takes which dominate here.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0vYx9yPEIpJaoh2I4keEjA?si=a...

(Of course, it's also possible that the whole interview was just an act.)

9. IG_Sem+Lg[view] [source] 2023-06-14 05:23:20
>>wolver+(OP)
new leadership playbook ?

The examples you cite could not be more different if you tried.

a) One is working towards their IPO. b) One was taken private, and doing nothing would have resulted in Chapter 11 c) The 3rd is a public company, trying to unwind a moonshot project with a budget that dwarfed the cost of the NASA Apollo space program itself.

The common themes in these disparate scenarios is that all 3 leadership "styles" have a strong sense of self-interest (and short term self-preservation), period.

But that's just business.

Its nothing new.

◧◩◪
10. lolind+6h[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 05:26:54
>>duck+B6
What made Trump different, and what these other leaders are following, is that he chose to put it out in the open. It wasn't something that just happened with changing tech, he did it on purpose.

With a leader like Steve Jobs you got a lot of rumors about callous behavior in private but got a polished exterior. Trump upended that when he became popular by being publicly crass.

◧◩
11. tarsin+Zj[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 05:55:56
>>was830+o4
This is a public speech playbook to influence a crowd. You need to reach a large audience on your own terms without being challenged. It was not applicable through traditional media, and public speeches occasion with a large audience were very rare. Social media made it possible 24/7. Also the previous US president proving it works was a turning point.
◧◩◪
12. reveli+JF[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 09:05:05
>>zerohp+pa
Trump is to blame for the behavior of the company that banned Trump's subreddit? Is there anything this man can't be blamed for?
replies(2): >>DougN7+5X >>johnny+NA1
◧◩◪◨
13. DougN7+5X[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 11:44:16
>>reveli+JF
Well, he did things more brazenly and on a bigger stage than anyone before him, and got away with it. Big numbers of people noticed.
◧◩◪◨
14. johnny+NA1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 14:48:37
>>reveli+JF
Did Spez ban trump's sub or did Reddit?

There are inevitable more than one Spez at Reddit, but I doubt all 2000+ employees are like that.

[go to top]