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1. 2OEH8e+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-06-12 22:10:16
Could some form of copyright or ownership help with this? The reason they can sell it is because it's theirs. Not yours. If you retained ownership of that data somehow would they need a warrant for it?
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2. JumpCr+G[view] [source] 2023-06-12 22:13:44
>>2OEH8e+(OP)
> Could some form of copyright or ownership help with this

Just pass privacy rights. Backing into a solution with copyright is unnecessarily messy. Nobody wants to deal with a lifetime of the courts deciding on the status of personal data seized in a bankruptcy proceeding or hypothecated to foreign investors.

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3. bilqis+R4[view] [source] 2023-06-12 22:35:44
>>2OEH8e+(OP)
That implies creating market for data, attaching speculative value to it and et cetera, and stinks of web3 bullshit.
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4. JumpCr+la[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-12 23:04:05
>>bilqis+R4
> creating market for data, attaching speculative value to it and et cetera, and stinks of web3 bullshit

Creating tradeable property rights is older than web3. (Web3's innovation was turbocharging securitization by skipping the step of finding something worth securitizing.) The question is whether, and to what extent, we want personal data to be a market good. It currently is.

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5. turnso+qb[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-12 23:10:09
>>JumpCr+la

  > turbocharging securitization by skipping the step of finding something worth securitizing
Best description of web3 I’ve ever read
6. linuxa+Ck[view] [source] 2023-06-13 00:09:00
>>2OEH8e+(OP)
Copyright isn't really ownership and only applies to creative works, software and works that exceed the threshold of originality. It doesn't apply to metadata, location information, secrets and facts about people.

Ownership as a concept doesn't really apply so well to digital things because they are infinitely copy-able. I can have something digital, and you can have it too.

There's certainly a need for better privacy laws which applies to PII but that doesn't really need to be conflated with copyright and ownership.

7. analog+nO[view] [source] 2023-06-13 04:02:06
>>2OEH8e+(OP)
I've thought about a couple of analogous concepts.

The first is the automatic civil penalty for copying copyrighted music recordings. If you're caught and proven liable, the dollar amount of damages don't need to be debated -- they're pre-determined.

The second is the concept that mere possession of certain kinds of information (unspeakable pornography) is a criminal offense.

I think some combinations of these concepts could create a bounty system for victims to collect on the abuse of their personal information: 1) Improper possession is inherently illegal. 2) Offer for sale or transfer of the information carries an automatic civil penalty.

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8. heavys+1b1[view] [source] 2023-06-13 06:52:33
>>2OEH8e+(OP)
You likely granted surveillance companies licenses to use and share your content however they see fit, assuming EULAs and ToS are binding.
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9. ethbr0+Bk4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 22:41:41
>>JumpCr+G
Just pass mask rights.

If we have no problem with privacy, it shouldn't be illegal to wear a mask in public.

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10. omnigl+ol7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 18:20:11
>>analog+nO
Since music "piracy" has been demonstrated to increase music purchases, this fixed dollar amount should therefore be negative. Any music I am found sharing shall result in the music industry paying me. Sounds about right.
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