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I don't doubt that this technique was used for the people who stormed the capital on January 6th, but I would hesitate to describe many of them as "protestors".

>>some_f+(OP)
You're free to describe them however you like, it's irrelevant to my point.

>>roarch+G1
Remember to some people "there are no bad tactics, only bad targets", lots of people are blinded when their perceived political enemies are getting "what they deserve" and fail to understand the powers and tactics used on their political enemies will soon be used on them....

They will then go all shocked pikachu face then the government assault team in their door step taking them way... how can this bee they were the good ones.. they were on the "right side of history"...

Welcome to the system, everyone's a victim Doesn't matter if you're red or blue it hates you all

>>some_f+(OP)
Actually, let's do call them protesters. If you want to get universal agreement on the need for privacy regulations, you need to present it a way that does not immediately turn away your intended audience.

When both sides really agree on something, it's amazing how fast it gets done. Which, of course, is why there are people trying to hard to keep both sides from ever agreeing.

>>phpist+X3
This is literally what the Seattle populace is now doing after years of screaming "Defund the police". They have come full circle demanding more police presence due to raising crime rates. You get what you protest for or something like it.

>>rootus+78
On one hand I know that this is true. We have to guard against special pleading that allows oppression of those we disagree with because that inevitably leads to our own oppression sooner or later.

On the other hand I understand what the post you're replying to is saying, even if it's not said extremely well. There is an enormous online narrative with a lot of money and power behind it trying to normalize the most violent and anti-democratic parts of the right wing of American politics and using that to drive views, clicks, and votes.

I'm normally not someone to clutch pearls and will be the first one to acknowledge that the vast majority of Americans are just decent enough people trying to figure out how to keep fed, healthy, and safe. But the tendency toward fascism in the human animal is something we need vigilance against, as demonstrated over and over again in human history.

The people who attempted to violently attack the seat of democratically elected power in this country were not protestors. There were protestors outside, but the people who crossed the line to breaking and entering, assault, and terrorism were not protestors.

>>roarch+G1
It's not irrelevant to point out the false equivalency of putting constitutionally protected speech on the same level as forced entry, assault, and destruction of property.

>>whoopd+Wc
It's irrelevant because my entire and only point is that the government has this capability, no "may" about it.

Whether my choice of words implied the level of ideological purity that you wished to see has nothing to do with that.

>>whoopd+Wc
Any protest march and demonstration worth its salt can be described with terms such as "forced entry, assault, and destruction of property" (and has been)...

>>whoopd+Wc
I don't see this sentiment for the George Floyd riots that plagued the whole country for longer and did significantly more damage, instead of caring for corrupt politicians why not persecute those who robbed and stole from the common citizen.

If a protest doesn't make the news what's the point?

>>graphe+hn
You don't see it because you're not looking for it. Plenty of protest groups were extremely vigilant about minimizing property damage and rooting out violent infiltrators.

The George Floyd protests were far more policed: twenty-five protestors died; around 14k were arrested. [1]

Hard to say any 1/6er suffered a similar fate, despite their significantly more egregious apparent crimes.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests

>>theboo+4s
Do you not see the irony of your post? Did you not see the same at the 1/6? If they were more policed, the fires, and destruction didn't help it make it appear so. I could see the Floyd protests/riots outside. 1/6 affected some .1% of the elite I could care less about.

I'm still trying to see a reason why the common man hates that the citizens protest the government, or cares so much for the corrupt elite of either party. The government is not your friend. If the Floyd protests went to Washington it could have been less 1996 and more MLK.

>>graphe+ct
I don't know how to tell you that there were George Floyd protests in DC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Washi....

Somehow they managed to avoid breaking into the Capitol building and rifling through the offices of Congresscritters.

>>theboo+4u
To reiterate my point in the original post: If a protest doesn't make the news what's the point?

1/6 hurt Trump, and the Floyd riots hurt the BLM cause. If only either of them did something positive with the attention. One affected me and the people around me, the other could have happened on Mars to billionaire reptiles. I couldn't care less for those elites.