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1. Zetice+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-06-12 19:14:27
Completely disagree re: moderation. The goal for sites like this is never "high quality content", it's "maximum traffic".

If he can get 50k paying users, he's a millionaire. If that means low effort meme posts, who are you to slap those dollars out of his hand?

The "intelligentsia" of the Internet need to get a grip on what people want; these sites are for entertainment not elucidation and discovery.

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2. mrtran+Wd[view] [source] 2023-06-12 20:12:11
>>Zetice+(OP)
Given the popularity of searching for things like product reviews or good restaurants in a new town by appending “Reddit.com” to the search query, I think elucidation and discovery are at least part of what drives people to such platforms.
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3. diggin+kf[view] [source] 2023-06-12 20:16:47
>>Zetice+(OP)
> If he can get 50k paying users, he's a millionaire.

How did you reach that conclusion?

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4. Zetice+xk[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-12 20:36:25
>>diggin+kf
Estimation skills and general understanding that the exact value is less important than the larger point.
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5. Zetice+Uk[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-12 20:38:06
>>mrtran+Wd
Not really a given, that’s just how you use the platform.

You’d have to show thats a substantial part of Reddit’s traffic and therefore revenue, for it to actually be given.

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6. mrtran+yp[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-12 20:56:30
>>Zetice+Uk
To be clear, that’s not how I use the platform (I’m not sure I’ve ever searched that way). But it’s a common enough pattern that there have been widely read articles referencing it:

> This means you’ll no longer have to add “Reddit” to your searches when you’re looking for thoughts from actual humans, not empty answers from websites just trying to get clicks.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/20/23034024/brave-search-fea...

> It turns out that almost 70% of polled readers add 'Reddit' to their search results at least sometimes.

https://www.androidauthority.com/reddit-web-search-queries-p...

I can’t say that it’s a substantial portion of Reddit’s traffic, of course. But clearly it’s not just a mrtranscendence idiosyncrasy.

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7. Zetice+fC[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-12 21:54:53
>>mrtran+yp
Then I don't think what you've said is a given. Maybe many people do it, but does that matter to Reddit? That's not certain, and it is even less clear that such a thing would be relevant to Non.io.

Besides, there are many routes to profitability here that have absolutely nothing to do with replicating all of Reddit's value for a user. Presuming this needs to be a 1:1 clone of Reddit seems needlessly reductive.

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8. jacque+HF[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-12 22:10:48
>>diggin+kf
Multi-millionaire as the typical valuations of start-ups go. Getting 50K paying users would be absolutely amazing out of the gate. Many web properties with a fraction of that are worth in the millions.
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9. mrtran+W31[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 00:36:38
>>Zetice+fC
If it’s true that a fair portion of those who search Google specify “reddit.com” at least sometimes, as seems likely, I’m comfortable that users looking for “elucidation and discovery” are at least somewhat relevant to Reddit or those who wish to compete with Reddit.

I’m not saying this needs to be a clone of Reddit; I don’t think I implied that, or intended to at least.

10. johnny+qG1[view] [source] 2023-06-13 05:35:33
>>Zetice+(OP)
> The goal for sites like this is never "high quality content", it's "maximum traffic".

so how do you feel about HN personally?

>If that means low effort meme posts, who are you to slap those dollars out of his hand?

If so, congrats. I'll keep searching and be glad some rags to riches site came about in a time of multibillion dollar empires.

>these sites are for entertainment not elucidation and discovery.

put it this way. I've been on the internet for decades, and I know that to really find quality content you gotta either pay for it in money behind a paywall, or in a lot of time digging through the muck. I have done both.

I'm not going to pretend there won't be a lot of muck to dig through here, even with the idea of a paid subscription site. But the goal here is that there will be enough nuggets underneath to make it worth it. And currently, that line is pretty low given what I dig through reddit to find.

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11. Zetice+dK2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 13:29:51
>>johnny+qG1
You are not a very desirable user for a company to attempt to sell ads to. You don’t fall for tricks, you don’t click on bait, you don’t generate value easily for the sites you use.

The people who like memes are a lot easier to make money off of than you, and as much as people pretend to hare money, it’s the way we survive in this world.

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12. johnny+MF3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-13 17:23:08
>>Zetice+dK2
>You are not a very desirable user for a company to attempt to sell ads to.

hence why a website that is not attempting to sell ads to me but has a sound monetization scheme is appealing. Not that I mind a site that uses ads (I have adblock but I wouldn't mind subscribing to something of value to get rid of ads), but one trying to rely on "non-desirable monetization" may have less memes in such a community.

I can certainly be wrong, but again: it's an interesting experiment I wouldn't mind trying out.

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13. idiots+Ev5[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-14 02:16:33
>>Zetice+dK2
Why are we talking about selling ads on a thread entirely about a website whose whole shtick is that they don't sell ads.
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