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1. acomje+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-06-06 17:11:55
Sorry it didn't work for you. I would recommend anyone buying at notebook to get one with linux pre-installed. I did that because I want to use this thing, not futz with it.

I'm assuming you're using Asahi Linux on your Macs (though you said you wouldn't touch it..). The lack of hardware diversity should make comparability easier, even if everything need to be reversed engineered.

I get 6 hours or so on my machine. Its pretty much silent, unless I push it. Its a Ryzen 7 5700u. We do a lot of parallel compute and genetics code tends massively parallel and x86 optimized. Mostly run on cluster though. I haven't done any maintenance and have had not hardware issues.

I don't link I could ever go back to macos, or windows.

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2. hedora+Xc[view] [source] 2023-06-06 18:07:33
>>acomje+(OP)
What ryzen laptop is this that you keep referencing?

The negative experiences with the thinkpad are typical of all the intel laptops I have recently used, preloaded OS (including Windows, and to a lesser extent, Linux and MacOS), or not.

Whenever I look for an AMD laptop, it has a low resolution (1080p) display, and/or an off-center keyboard/trackpad (or has some other obvious fatal flaw).

I'm typing this on an M2 macbook. I do 100% of my work in an "8 core" arm Linux VM that can only use one core for userspace stuff (according to top), but that still kicks the pants off my previous laptop.

I'm strongly considering dual booting into asahi.

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3. acomje+pe[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-06 18:13:19
>>hedora+Xc
Its a system76 pangolin (2022)

>Whenever I look for an AMD laptop, it has a low resolution (1080p) display, and/or an off-center keyboard/trackpad (or has some other obvious fatal flaw).

yup it has both of those. But the screen is only15", and I'm old so it doesn't matter. It not glossy which I really like though.

If you love the mac hardware, give Asahi a try. My understanding its the best linux for the M-series macbooks. Linux is great for developing on and they seem to be making great progress.

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4. kitsun+261[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-06 22:53:23
>>hedora+Xc
The off-center keyboard thing is super irritating. I know some live and die by numpads but for my usage, 99% of the time they're just collecting dust and making typing less comfortable.

Laptop displays are also a common frustration, though this has been improving lately. Still too many models stuck on 16:9 aspect ratio though, which is suboptimal for anything but watching movies due to lack of vertical real estate. By the time you've factored in all the taskbars, titlebars, toolbars, menubars, tab bars, and status bars you've got a keyhole left to peer through. This is less of a problem for those using something like i3 or Sway where half of those bars are hidden but tiling WMs just aren't my thing.

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5. microt+Ia2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-07 08:26:26
>>acomje+pe
It's interesting how different tolerances are. I couldn't even stand 1080p on 13.3".

And then it needed some fractional scaling factor. Wayland apps worked ok with that scaling (though rendering was perceivably jankier), but some X11 apps would just be blurry. At the time there was no solution for there apps and looking at an extremely blurry CLion all day is no fun. The only solution was to run the whole desktop environment in 1x scaling and use this GNOME option to use larger fonts and widgets. Which worked ok-ish, but many things are sized in a funny way.

I just couldn't tolerate so much brokenness.

(And don't get me started on sharing a screen in Zoom conference calls.)

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6. gmokki+3a3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-07 15:32:21
>>hedora+Xc
I managed to get Ryzen 5850U/15W Thinkpad with 4k display in 2021. There were some necessary firmware updates during the first year to get the suspend and power management working (afaik, not so many kernel bugs), luckily fwupd now works for Dell and Lenovo so fw updates are easy and there is a popup to recommend them when available. For the past year it has been very stable running Fedora and thus using the latest kernels.

Now waiting for the Ryzen 7840U configured to 15W to be available with 64GB ram.

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7. hedora+1q3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-06-07 16:29:06
>>microt+Ia2
I don't understand how scaling is so broken. I switched my Linux desktop environment to a high DPI monitor in 2001 (it was a Sony CRT). Stuff like font and bitmap rendering looked better then than it does now.
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