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Not to go all “I told you so” but I do recall Christian talking about how Reddit would never do anything like this and how much trust he had in their developer relations team now, oh, sometime earlier this year. Hope he took the suggestion to have a backup plan seriously…relying on the whims of a single company is a hard way to make your income. Doesn’t mean you can’t try it but it is fundamentally pretty risky.

>>saagar+(OP)
Everything in life is risky. Show me the 100% reliable path to financial prosperity and happiness. You could get laid off tomorrow by your current employer. The stock market could crash, and any investments you made could amount to nothing.

>>saagar+(OP)
And in the replies to the thread, the admin is now publicly back-and-forthing with Christian about the number of requests made by his app and how "other bots and apps" are more efficient.

>>saagar+(OP)
I found this attitude from Christian really off-putting.

Dude, you run an interface to another company’s core business. You cannot make any guarantees about what they may or may not do.

>>lapcat+uh
Nope, you don’t understand. You make apps for macOS. I understand that there is risk there. I’m not one of those people who go around telling you it’s your fault when Apple pulls the plug on you, because you understand the risk you operate in and I think it’s fine for people to do this.

Now, if you paraded around telling people you trust Apple and that they would never hurt you in any way, and that you had conversations with their management and they want you to succeed, now we have a problem.

>>SkyPun+lD
I feel like it's the same thing with people who have a youtube channel.

If you're in a situation where all of your income comes from a company, but you don't have an employer/employee contract with that company. It seems like such a precarious position to me.

>>saagar+E11
> Now, if you paraded around telling people you trust Apple and that they would never hurt you in any way

This feels like exaggeration. Unless there's something I missed?

"My thoughts: I think if done well and done reasonably, this could be a positive change (but that's a big if). If Reddit provides a means for third party apps to have a stable, consistent, and future-looking relationship with Reddit that certainly has its advantages, and does not sound unreasonable, provided the pricing is reasonable." https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_fe...

> you had conversations with their management and they want you to succeed, now we have a problem.

If this did happen, but later management double-crossed me, would you then rip on me?

>>lapcat+o61
Sent you a copy, it's a bit stronger than this (although from several months ago).

For your question, though: I don't think it's "your fault" that anything bad happens to you. It's obvious that the problem lies with the company you're working with–it's just that this kind of bad behavior is unlikely to change, so you unfortunately need to take it into account when dealing with them. If you had asked me earlier I probably would have said something like "be wary: the management of today might not be the management of tomorrow, or they may shift priorities, or they might just straight up being lying to you". If all goes well, that's awesome, but I still think it's important to consider these things.

By way of example, one of the apps I work on has effectively gotten approval from senior management–essentially, what it does is "legitimate" and "within the rules". What this means we have reduced our investments in thinking about scenarios where it gets removed from sale, but continue to maintain our ability to deploy elsewhere even if it is little-used right now.

>>mustac+Oy
Honestly a dumb conversation from the admin if you ask me. Let's say Christian is using 3x the requests for whatever reason. That just means he's on the hook for a $6 million bill at the end of the year if he optimizes things. There's not really a big difference here.

>>RoyGBi+w41
> but you don't have an employer/employee contract with that company. It seems like such a precarious position to me.

Your employer can dump you at any time. If you hadn't noticed, there have been mass layoffs in many tech companies this year.