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I suppose now is a good time to ask if there are any good _non-corporate_ open source browsers out there?

Seems to me that businesses operate within an incentive structure that will always encourage them to take maximum advantage of users and do anti-user things no matter what their original goals were. The non-corporate part is key imo (see Canonical, Mozilla now etc.)

>>horesz+(OP)
On KDE, Falkon.

On Gnome, "Web".

On macOS, Safari may not pass your "non-corporate" requirement, but it's spiritually non-corporate, and functionally "just a browser". It's also wicked fast and extremely light on your resources.

On many platforms, "ungoogled-chromium" may satisfy your needs. It's under the name "eloston-chromium" in many repos. https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

>>horesz+(OP)
You have to keep moving; Brave has been relatively good to me for now but I assume it will slump into the melt at some point.

>>LeoPan+t
Safari – such a pleasure to use it.

>>bombca+C
To burst your bubble: https://digdeeper.neocities.org/articles/browsers#brave

>>horesz+(OP)
Gnome-Web if you're on linux and it is fine. It is a little light on features, but it does the basics. Falkon is another for the QT/KDE crowd. There are several forks of chrome and firefox, if that's your thing.

I'm trying to ungoogle and switched to Vivaldi without enough research. Its a really nice browser and I really like the community around it (like their Mastodon service), but I basically jumped from one corporation's browser to another.

>>horesz+(OP)
We're not getting anywhere without the social support for it. Virtually all tech conferences are corporate-funded, for example, so they're not going to praise independent browsers. Conversations get stifled.

Self-plug but my indie conferences [0] promote software that respect the user's quality of experience. One of my favorite presentations that we've featured is SerenityOS (including their open-source browser) which made headlines at the time. [1]

[0] https://handmadecities.com

[1] https://vimeo.com/641406697

>>LeoPan+t
Safari is the MSIE 6 of this time period.

>>postal+Fb
That's lazy stereotyping and not even close to being a useful or accurate analogy.

>>LeoPan+Fc
It's the default browser for many people and also the browser with the most quirks.

>>postal+Fb
Safari is the fastest browser, the most standards compliant browser, and regularly updated, the only similarity to IE6 is it’s buggy. Chrome, on the other hand, followed IE’s whole playbook: leverage a platform monopoly to push the browser, then leverage browser monopoly to undermine standards, coercing devs into dropping support for the competition.

>>handsc+qD
How is the the most complaint browser?

https://html5test.com/results/desktop.html

Looks like its the worst. Unless you have something proving otherwise. Till then I'll assume all your facts are bullshit.