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1. walrus+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-26 16:09:13
The particularly terrible thing about this is that the Mozilla VPN product is actually Mullvad underneath, one of the better and more ethical VPN providers. Then they have to do this popup ad bullshit pushed by the browser and take a dump all over it.
replies(2): >>super2+81 >>mig39+19
2. super2+81[view] [source] 2023-05-26 16:15:08
>>walrus+(OP)
What is the value proposition of using Mozilla VPN over Mullvad directly, other than adding a layer of USA on top of it (which is a bad thing imo)?

Also, has Mozilla VPN also a windows client, or is it more like the Opera Proxies (which were called VPN for some reason)?

replies(4): >>walrus+24 >>elashr+t4 >>iso163+K7 >>john2x+hQ
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3. walrus+24[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 16:27:33
>>super2+81
For myself as possible VPN end user I don't see the value proposition, but presumably, Mozilla is treating this as a new source of revenue (they get some percentage of the total monthly recurring or a one time sign up commmission or something from Mullvad?) as a way to be very slightly less dependent on Google for most of their incoming revenue stream.

I can see ordinary non technical users who want to "buy a VPN service" going with this as a decent option. It seems to be fairly consumer friendly and have a well documented setup process.

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4. elashr+t4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 16:29:16
>>super2+81
>has Mozilla VPN also a windows client?

Yes, actually has something for all three major Desktop OSes, iOS and Android. [1]

[1]https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/vpn/download/]

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5. elashr+45[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 16:31:21
>>walrus+24
The only thing that makes me choose it over Mullvad is how well the integration with Multi-Container in Firefox. It is a first class citizen compared with VPN profiles support for others.
replies(1): >>super2+0i2
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6. iso163+K7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 16:40:56
>>super2+81
I use Mozilla VPN rather than Mullvad because it was a nice way of supporting mozilla and thus firefox.

I also think that while mozilla may handle my finances, mullvad handle the VPN. Mozilla doesn't get the technical details of mullvad and thus don't know what IP I'm on, and I don't think mullvad know my name. Sure it's not quite cash in an envelope, but paranoia comes with a cost too.

> Also, has Mozilla VPN also a windows client, or is it more like the Opera Proxies (which were called VPN for some reason)?

No idea, but it has a linux client and an ios client. It's a nice simple wireguard VPN

7. mig39+19[view] [source] 2023-05-26 16:44:59
>>walrus+(OP)
I have Mullvad running on my devices all the time...

I wonder if they showed the ad to Mullvad users?

Also, Mullvad is unique in that it generally doesn't do commissions or special sale prices, etc. The "top rated" VPNs on review sites and YouTube channels are usually the ones paying the most in commission. And it's a reason Mullvad is rarely in the "top rated" lists -- it doesn't pay commissions.

I wonder how that works with Mozilla? Surely Mozilla is getting a commission?

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8. doglea+Zs[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 18:19:04
>>mig39+19
Without actually researching this, my impression is that Mullvad is a white label provider that the Mozilla VPN product is built on.

That's very different business arrangement than Mullvad paying commission for customer acquisition.

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9. john2x+hQ[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 20:40:48
>>super2+81
It was cheaper the last time I looked at it. $5.00/mo for Mozilla, and Mullvad is Euro5.00/mo.
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10. super2+0i2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-27 13:49:56
>>elashr+45
I looked this up and it looks very cool! Why aren't they advertising this better?

I now want this for mullvad too tbh

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/protect-your-container-...

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