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1. logdap+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-26 16:01:17
Mozilla management are malicious snakes. This isn't the first time they've tried something like this and it won't be the last. Each time they issue noncommittally apologies, if you can call them that, but it keeps on happening. They're testing the water for even more ads in Firefox, trying to normalize this until people stop complaining. Keep the heat on them, don't give them an inch or they'll take a mile.
replies(7): >>Michae+ya >>wodeno+sb >>mozman+Qk >>JohnFe+Kp >>averev+rr >>roelsc+WH >>pessim+lJ
2. Michae+ya[view] [source] 2023-05-26 16:44:32
>>logdap+(OP)
They might not care anymore or trying to do a Hail Mary, once >99% of browser-share is just Chromium and Webkit/Safari, then popular websites might not even work with FireFox anymore.
3. wodeno+sb[view] [source] 2023-05-26 16:48:12
>>logdap+(OP)
I’m not sure what “something like this” you are referring to.

But Firefox is an ad supported browser and has been for nearly 2 decades.

That they want to take ownership of the advertising is no surprise. Who knows when google will turn off the faucet.

But this is definitely not the right way

4. mozman+Qk[view] [source] 2023-05-26 17:29:57
>>logdap+(OP)
It's not all management. It's Mitchell Baker. She needs to step down as CEO.
5. JohnFe+Kp[view] [source] 2023-05-26 17:53:32
>>logdap+(OP)
> Each time they issue noncommittally apologies, if you can call them that, but it keeps on happening.

An apology needs three parts: admission that you did wrong, expressing regret for your wrongdoing, and a change in your behavior so that you don't do it again.

Mozilla's tendency to just do the first two and skip the third means that, in my view, those weren't real apologies.

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6. averev+rr[view] [source] 2023-05-26 18:01:06
>>logdap+(OP)
To be fair I've notice that apologies for company screwups have gone up in quality significantly afte r the introduction of chatgpt, and I await their with interest to see if the trend holds.
7. roelsc+WH[view] [source] 2023-05-26 19:38:21
>>logdap+(OP)
If they keep doing things like this, people will stop complaining. Because they drive users away, and there will be nobody left to complain.
8. pessim+lJ[view] [source] 2023-05-26 19:48:25
>>logdap+(OP)
> Each time they issue noncommittally apologies

Introduced by a bunch of gaslighting that it isn't actually happening or isn't anything different that what was always happened, then interleaved with accusations of bullying and entitlement directed at its userbase.

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9. Macha+h31[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-26 21:55:51
>>JohnFe+Kp
It's hard to say they even do the first two. This one for example is not "sorry we added ads", but a "We're sorry you're concerned or confused".
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