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1. Camper+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-24 17:13:15
I see, it lets me install random .EXEs from sketchy web sites on my Windows machine without having to worry. Sounds safe.
replies(1): >>iknows+M3
2. iknows+M3[view] [source] 2023-05-24 17:28:39
>>Camper+(OP)
Whats your point? You just ran a bunch of untrusted code when you visitied this website.
replies(2): >>EvanAn+a7 >>parl_m+lH
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3. EvanAn+a7[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-24 17:45:58
>>iknows+M3
Untrusted code running in a well-defined and maintained sandbox.
replies(2): >>pauldd+fp1 >>hardwa+dV1
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4. parl_m+lH[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-24 21:07:05
>>iknows+M3
Running a native binary in an environment with a large attack space and user level permissions is not NEARLY the same as running javascript in a browser with all of its sandboxing, isolation, and controls. And you know it.
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5. pauldd+fp1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 02:54:16
>>EvanAn+a7
Yes and....
replies(1): >>EvanAn+EQ2
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6. hardwa+dV1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 09:18:02
>>EvanAn+a7
Still stuff manages to escape constantly

You can find exploits on gh for older chromium versions easily

replies(1): >>EvanAn+jQ2
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7. EvanAn+jQ2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 15:36:52
>>hardwa+dV1
Even so it's disingenuous to compare running native code in an OS w/o a capabilities model to running Javascript in a browser.
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8. EvanAn+EQ2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 15:38:24
>>pauldd+fp1
Visiting a website and running Javascript vs. running a native application aren't equivalent. Browser sandbox exploits are "a thing" but that doesn't make the situations the same.
replies(1): >>pauldd+ta3
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9. pauldd+ta3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 17:13:17
>>EvanAn+EQ2
Yes and WASM can be sandboxed just as easily as JavaScript.

There is nothing "magical" about web browsers in that regard.

replies(1): >>EvanAn+ui3
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10. EvanAn+ui3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 17:54:09
>>pauldd+ta3
I don’t follow where you’re going.

I didn’t say there was anything “magical” about browsers. They have a sandbox for JavaScript, by default. Windows doesn’t have a sandbox for native apps, by default.

A parent poster seemed to be making a statement of equivalency between running a native application in Windows and running JavaScript in a browser. I don’t think they’re equivalent.

That’s what I’m saying.

replies(1): >>iknows+qc4
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11. iknows+qc4[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-25 22:40:15
>>EvanAn+ui3
We are literally talking about an environment for running Win32 apps in a sandbox
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