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1. injinj+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-20 17:08:24
The reputation system is radical departure from freenet. This feels like a google search pagerank integrated with yelp, where you initially buy keywords from freenet.org, like a domain name purchase, and then other users add or subtract from your rating.

The other thing that is different is providing a multicast mechanism to subscribers of a service.

My memory is fuzzy, but I think the original freenet was pull based, where content was replicated around the network closer to the consumers of the data. I believe there was a well known key that signed the static content, so you could retrieve data using natural language. The well known key could be updated to point to any static content, so you could emulate push by polling the well known key and getting the latest version.

The new reputation mechanism must integrate with the subscription multicast in order to limit the abuse of the network. I'd be interested in a description on how this works.

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2. sanity+o2[view] [source] 2023-05-20 17:26:11
>>injinj+(OP)
> The reputation system is radical departure from freenet.

Many things about the new Freenet are very different, however the original Freenet had a reputation system called "web-of-trust"[1]. The new Freenet's reputation system will be a generalization of this.

> where you initially buy keywords from freenet.org, like a domain name purchase, and then other users add or subtract from your rating.

Not exactly buying keywords, you can use a donation to "bootstrap" a reputation, this is done anonymously through an RSA blind signature. There will be other ways to do this too - but a donation is simple, and obviously benefits the project.

> The new reputation mechanism must integrate with the subscription multicast in order to limit the abuse of the network. I'd be interested in a description on how this works.

This is largely addressed by lower-level mechanisms although the reputation system could also play a role. Each peer keeps track of its neighboring peer's behavior, abusive peers will be disconnected over time. See [2] for a description of part of this mechanism.

[1] https://freesocial.draketo.de/wot_en.html

[2] https://github.com/freenet/locutus/blob/3e5a31780f235e04f7b2...

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3. injinj+Ob[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-20 18:28:39
>>sanity+o2
Thanks for the refs.

If I wanted to setup z-library on freenet, an example where reputation could be greatly enhanced by users of the service yet at odds with the legal system. Could the governed outweigh the influence of the government using the reputation system? Sorry for the silly information wants to be free argument, I know you've answered such questions ad inifinitum.

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4. sanity+2g[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-20 19:04:16
>>injinj+Ob
Generally speaking, you could create a search engine on the new Freenet, based on a decentralized inverted keyword index using reputation for ranking. Such a system would run independently of any government, individual, or organization, even of its creators. Government censorship of such a system would be difficult, due to its decentralization.
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5. ArneBa+BW2[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-21 21:43:59
>>sanity+2g
Sounds like YaCy?
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6. sanity+lj3[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-22 01:24:39
>>ArneBa+BW2
Same goal, but this would just be one system built on top of Locutus - which could interoperate with others - rather than a standalone system.
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