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1. parent+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-17 01:30:02
The subtle difference between the original statement and yours:

Ideas that drive governing decisions should be globally good - meaning there should be more than just @sama espousing them.

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2. r_hood+ik[view] [source] 2023-05-17 05:08:01
>>parent+(OP)
You're defending an argument that is blatantly self contradictory within the space of two sentences.

A) "anything he suggests should be categorically rejected because he’s just not in a position to be trusted."

B) "If what he suggests are good ideas then hopefully we can arrive at them in some other way with a clean chain of custody."

These sentences directly follow each other and directly contradict each other. Logically you can't categorically (the categorical is important here. Categorical means something like "treat as a universal law") reject a conclusion because it is espoused by someone you dislike, while at the same time saying you will accept that conclusion if arrived at by some other route.

"I will reject P if X proposes P, but will accept P if Y proposes P." is just poor reasoning.

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3. brooks+Oi1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-17 13:53:29
>>r_hood+ik
More clearly said than I managed, yep.

But I suppose it comes down to priorities. If good policy is less important than contradicting P, I suppose that approach makes sense.

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