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1. ben_w+(OP)[view] [source] 2023-05-16 19:53:51
You're not wrong, except in so far as that's parochial.

A government-controlled… never mind artificial god, a government-controlled story teller can be devastating.

I don't buy Musk's claim ChatGPT is "woke" (or even that the term is coherent enough to be tested), but I can say that each government requiring AI to locally adhere to national mythology, will create self-reinforcing cognitive blind spots, because that already happens at the current smaller scale of manual creation and creators being told not to "talk the country down".

But, unless someone has a technique for structuring an AI such that it can't be evil even when you, for example, are literally specifically trying to train it to support the police no matter how authoritarian the laws are, then a fully open source AGI is almost immediately also a perfectly obedient sociopath of $insert_iq_claim_here.

I don't want to wake up to the news that some doomsday cult has used one to design/make a weapon, nor the news a large religious group target personalised propaganda against me and mine.

Fully open does that by default.

But, you're still right, if we don't grok the AI, the governments can each secretly manipulate the AI and bend it to government goals in opposition to the people.

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2. robwwi+aa[view] [source] 2023-05-16 20:46:29
>>ben_w+(OP)
> I can say that each government requiring AI to locally adhere to national mythology, will create self-reinforcing cognitive blind spots, because that already happens at the current smaller scale of manual creation and creators being told not to "talk the country down".

This is a key point. Every culture and agency and state will want (deserve) their own homespun AGI. But can we all learn how to accommodate to or accept a cultural multiverse when money and resources are zero-sum in many dimensions.

Hanno Rajaniemi’s Quantum Thief trilogy gives you a foretaste of where we could end up.

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3. vinay_+cc[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-16 20:55:51
>>robwwi+aa
Quantum Thief has as 3.8 on Goodreads. Worth reading?
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4. knewte+1G[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-17 00:02:31
>>vinay_+cc
Very much so
5. selimt+c31[view] [source] 2023-05-17 03:30:22
>>ben_w+(OP)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35872321
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6. ben_w+zG1[view] [source] [discussion] 2023-05-17 10:23:07
>>selimt+c31
I'd forgotten that headline (and still haven't read the content), but yes, that's one example of how it can go wrong.
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